Here's a couple of entries from a Catholic blog. The first quotes an American bishop on the war:
Therefore I, by the grace of God and the favor of the Apostolic See Bishop of the Eparchy of St. George in Canton, must declare to you, my people, for the sake of your salvation as well as my own, that any direct participation and support of this war against the people of Iraq is objectively grave evil, a matter of mortal sin. Beyond a reasonable doubt this war is morally incompatible with the Person and Way of Jesus Christ. With moral certainty I say to you it does not meet even the minimal standards of the Catholic just war theory.
Thus, any killing associated with it is unjustified and, in consequence, unequivocally murder. Direct participation in this war is the moral equivalent of direct participation in an abortion. For the Catholics of the Eparchy of St. George, I hereby authoritatively state that such direct participation is intrinsically and gravely evil and therefore absolutely forbidden."
(Me, I wonder if continually allowing people to be put alive through industrial plastic shredders isn't incompatible with the same.) Gerard's reaction:
Like many others, I have been and am conflicted about any war with Iraq. I have listened to the words of Church leaders, especially the Pope's. And my heart senses the rightness of his vision.
I listen to President George Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair, and my heart senses the rightness of their vision (which makes me wonder if there aren't deep points of contact between the fuller vision of each of these spokesmen).
I am, in fact, an admirer of all three (though it is no secret that my estimation of the Pope would have him in a class by himself, so great do I think he is).
I read the articles against the war and most of them put me off (and not always for profound intellectual reasons I am sure - though too many of them seem shoddy intellectually to me). [Tim: Amen.]
I read commentators who are in favor of President Bush's decision - such as Andrew Sullivan - and I find my mind tends to resonate with almost all he has to say.
I posted below sections of the Lenten Letter of Bishop John Michael of the Romanian Catholic Church and, while admiring his exercising of his apostolic authority as a Bishop of the Church, couldn't help but feel he is missing something important and "jumped the gun."
I hope and pray war will be avoided.
But I also hope and pray that we will take every action necessary to avoid anything like the horror and devastation to our homeland and fellow citizens and human beings that we witnessed so unforgettably on 9/11/01. I tend to think the President is right and that it will be a matter of time before it happens again if action isn't taken now. Of course, even then it may still happen - the threat is great and not likely to go away for a long time (if ever). There will, sadly, be a tragic price paid.
I pray for peace. I pray for God's Will to be done. I pray that as few lives are lost as is possible. I pray that any threat to the security of the United States and world community be weakened and eliminated quickly. I hope and pray that I will keep hoping and praying......
O my God, have mercy on us all!
[Via Amy Kropp's More Like Martha, Less Like Mary]
Update: Interesting! Even though the Catholic church has officially taken a stance against this war, I just saw a poll which showed American Catholics to be more in favor of the current actions than Protestants, who have no unified opposing leadership. (Protestants: 70% support, 20% oppose, Catholics: 77% support, 12% oppose!)
First, let me just say that what I am about to write is not meant to imply, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, that anyone opposed to the war is a communist or a socialist. This is just one of those interesting coincidences :) that makes me wonder about people.
The peace protests a few weeks ago that occurred in cities across the US were put together by an orginization called ANSWER-Act Now to Stop War and End Racism. This is a coalition of groups and organizations with a wide variety of interests, many of them totally unrelated to Iraq or Saddam Hussein. If one was to go to their website and look at the groups that comprise ANSWER, it is very interesting how many of those orginizations either admit in their titles to be communist or socialist groups or use phraseology that identifies them as such: words like "people's party" or "solidarity party". I always wonder if anyone who goes to these things ever does the research for what they are doing and if they realize that they are lending their voice to the cause of the "Oklahoma Socialist Cooperation".
Anyone who is still not reconciled with a war with Iraq, never will be. To those of you who would say, "But people will die", I say people have already died and are continuing to die under the thumb of Saddam Hussein. Food for oil didn't work, not because he wasn't selling enough oil, but because he was using the proceeds to build presidential palaces. To those of you who would say "We have no business meddling in Middle Eastern affairs", I would say, you're right, we don't. But originally, this was a UNITED NATIONS fight, not a US fight. Now, all we are doing is mopping up the mess the UN left the world with in 1991.
I applaude every US citizens right to stand up and say, "This is wrong." I don't happen to think being against the war is unpatriotic. But when you loan your voice to movements (like ANSWER) who's motives are less the patriotic at best, subversive at worst, you are committing acts that are unworthy of the privileges and liberties that generations of Americans fought, suffered and died for.
First, let me just say that what I am about to write is not meant to imply, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, that anyone opposed to the war is a communist or a socialist. This is just one of those interesting coincidences :) that makes me wonder about people.
The peace protests a few weeks ago that occurred in cities across the US were put together by an orginization called ANSWER-Act Now to Stop War and End Racism. This is a coalition of groups and organizations with a wide variety of interests, many of them totally unrelated to Iraq or Saddam Hussein. If one was to go to their website and look at the groups that comprise ANSWER, it is very interesting how many of those orginizations either admit in their titles to be communist or socialist groups or use phraseology that identifies them as such: words like "people's party" or "solidarity party". I always wonder if anyone who goes to these things ever does the research for what they are doing and if they realize that they are lending their voice to the cause of the "Oklahoma Socialist Cooperation".
Anyone who is still not reconciled with a war with Iraq, never will be. To those of you who would say, "But people will die", I say people have already died and are continuing to die under the thumb of Saddam Hussein. Food for oil didn't work, not because he wasn't selling enough oil, but because he was using the proceeds to build presidential palaces. To those of you who would say "We have no business meddling in Middle Eastern affairs", I would say, you're right, we don't. But originally, this was a UNITED NATIONS fight, not a US fight. Now, all we are doing is mopping up the mess the UN left the world with in 1991.
I applaude every US citizens right to stand up and say, "This is wrong." I don't happen to think being against the war is unpatriotic. But when you loan your voice to movements (like ANSWER) who's motives are less the patriotic at best, subversive at worst, you are committing acts that are unworthy of the privileges and liberties that generations of Americans fought, suffered and died for.
Posted by: Jeanette on March 19, 2003 06:11 PM