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I'm currently watching "Nature" on PBS, an episode on diamonds. They stated that diamonds are created from coal, approximate 100 miles down in the earth's crust. If coal is formed from petrochemicals, would it then follow that this is further evidence of the abiotic (non-biological) origins of petrochemicals, no? Another scientist has just appeared and dated diamonds at 2-3 billion years old. Again, this would be long before the life appeared and could have been decayed and converted into oil, and subsequently into coal. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Either of you, that is. :-) I want to know if you found 20 items from coal. would you share them with me? Posted by: Melody on May 13, 2004 02:03 PM Here's a novel idea... Posted by: Tim on May 14, 2004 02:01 PM Anyone of you: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH Posted by: on June 5, 2004 02:01 AM haters..... help a brotha and a sistah out! Posted by: Mandy on October 7, 2004 01:16 PM Isn't that what this site is for? For people to ask questions about things that are more difficult to find anywhere else?!! I think this site is the BEST for information on anything to do with school projects.. So all u out there who think those kids should "Do their own work" what are you doin here????That is what this site is FOR!!!! Learn from it don't discourage others from doing the same. Posted by: concerned mom on December 23, 2004 11:18 PM No, this blog is not for academic dishonesty. Think of the assignment: Name some things made from coal. What does the teacher want? The teacher wants the child to learn all about coal, and then realize the answer to that question as a smaller part of that learning. They want the child to read an entire article about coal and think for themselves -- not get someone else to do the assignment for them. Just giving the child the answer they want, without teaching them anything else about coal, does them a real disservice. And, of top of it, if the child does not give credit for where they got the answer, you're teaching plagiarism. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on December 28, 2004 12:45 PM If a student went to a librarian and asked "I need to know 20 things that are made from coal for extra credit for World Geography..Can you help me please??" Does the librarian a) do ALL the work for the student or b) give direction where the student can find the information he or she needs or c) jump down his or her throat and say "scram, kid, you bother me!" A student asked for help, not his or her homework to be done for them. I think Chantal should be given credit for exploring her options online. Have a heart, Tim. Maybe next year you won't get coal in your stocking ;) Posted by: on December 31, 2004 12:00 PM Anonymous coward, Let's see: I want students to learn, so I have no heart??? Yes, of course, how hateful of me. Not to mention judgemental of you. I've never said: "Scram kid, you bother me," as you falsely imply. Nor was my response given to "Chantal", as you also falsely assert. Look again. Futher, the comment I responded to wasn't, as you yet again falsely imply, an open-ended request for assistance. It was a request to simply be told the answer, not a place to look for it.
This is no different than one child asking the next: "What did you get for #4?" and then writing down whatever they're told. That's "cheating", last I checked, and, when rewarded, it's a damaging habit which will rob the child of achieving their true potential. Nor, as you also falsely implied (is there anything honest or accurate in your argument?), was this request addressed to me -- it was addressed to Chantal. Next, you seem to think I'm unhappy a child asked a question here. Of course not. Once again, you are simply distorting what was written: I'm unhappy one child was trying to copy the answer from another, rather than doing her own research. That troubles me, and I'm sorry to see it doesn't trouble you; perhaps you didn't even notice that was going on. That speaks poorly of the consideration you put into making an argument which attacks and denigrates another person. Shame on you. Or perhaps you did notice that, but you're a person who sees no problem with copying answers. Again, how sad. Apparently, you feel that because I have posted something here, I have a responsibility to determine and post the location of the answer to any question a commenter may pose, any time such a question is asked. Yet you posted here too, and could just as easily do the same work, and give the same hints, which you argue is very important to do. Yet have you done so? No, not at all. It was important for for someone else to do this -- just not your job. Perhaps this is why you are so sensitive to a simple admonishment that people "do their own work" and be responsible. It's not the children you are defending, instead, it touches on your own ethic, your protest is based on how it made you feel, not what was truly best for the child. Finally, you seem unhappy with the simple "do you own work" statement I posted here, and apparently want, instead, others to respond exactly as you wish them to. That comes off as intolerant; a person who is not happy until everyone is forced into her own mould. Good luck with all that. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on December 31, 2004 03:21 PM How do diamonds form fom coal? Posted by: anna on January 8, 2005 04:07 PM ok... well can u plzz help me out a bit by tellen me how diamonds can come in different coulars? coz iv been looken 4 ages and all i know is that its an impurity... so plzz help Posted by: Brian on February 9, 2005 12:27 AM D'oh!!!! Man I spend too much time on anti Quixtar Blog, I was realy thinking it was about Quixtar Daimonds :) Same good ol time getting personal attacks just for nothing :) Face it Tim, you do attract a lot of classics, no matter what you write about :-) PS: Quixtar diamonds are made of lies and deception. Posted by: Imran Aziz on February 10, 2005 01:11 AM D'oh!!!! Man I spend too much time on anti Quixtar Blog, I was really thinking it was about Quixtar Daimonds :) Same good ol Tim getting personal attacks just for nothing :) Face it Tim, you do attract a lot of classics, no matter what you write about :-) PS: Quixtar diamonds are made of lies and deception. Posted by: Imran Aziz on February 10, 2005 01:11 AM Imran: I love it. Sometimes it hurts a little, but it's like having your own little fishbowl with Internet denizens in it. e-Monkeys. :-) Brian: Diamonds are discolored because little bits of non-diamond stuff, called "impurities", get in them. Which kind of non-diamond stuff it is determines the color. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on February 10, 2005 02:21 AM For those of you with enough ethics to admonish those looking for an easy fix, I applaud your efforts. I grew up with books, not a chat room and agree that researching a topic is for the knowledge and growth of the child, not for the quick retreat to extra-curricular activities. Posted by: YOU RULE!!! on April 5, 2005 08:01 PM As a teacher I would be happy for my students to find the simple answer to twenty things that are made from coal. After that I would ask them what seems interesting to them. Once they've nominated one of the things made from coal I would say...research so that you can teach your peers. Posted by: Share-ALL on April 22, 2005 11:14 PM Diamonds are forever. Posted by: Jun Nishihara on July 18, 2005 11:08 AM Since no-one will help on this topic and I can't see knowledge wasted I will give you a summary. To understand where diamonds come from we should look at what they are made of. Diamonds are made up of carbon when it is under high pressure (about the weight of 180Km of rock pressing on it) and temperature 1100°C - 1400°C). This pressure and Temperature comes naturally deep within our earth and from the earths mantel. Search the web for more in depth answers. Your Friend B|ackF|ag - Das Und Das Einzig Posted by: B|ackF|ag on October 6, 2005 07:01 PM hey there is no way that diamond is made from coal. coal is black and diamond is clear. so there is no way that it can be possible. TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR! Posted by: on April 6, 2006 12:06 PM ahahahahh Posted by: heyya on June 8, 2006 12:49 PM ahahahahh Posted by: heyya on June 8, 2006 12:49 PM i thought that if you put pressur on coal you make a diamonds Posted by: chocolatebliss on July 15, 2006 01:32 AM Wikipedia is a great resource though it (and encyclopedias in general) are not always reliably accurate. It usually provides some good suggestions at least for beginning your research. go to; type in; Good luck and study hard. Posted by: Ryan on July 15, 2006 12:30 PM Interesting thought. Do you have any kind of link to the information, perhaps? Not that I don't trust you. But I've seen enough foul-ups in popular media that I'd just like to check things out before accepting the date given. Posted by: Ryan on July 15, 2006 12:36 PM To Share-All As a teacher I would be happy for my students to find the simple answer to twenty things that are made from coal. If this teacher wanted the students to have the information, they would have given it to their students directly rather than having strangers solicit the information. Knowing how to research a topic is more valuable than the knowledge itself. Posted by: ryan on July 16, 2006 01:04 PM Diamonds are forever. That's marketing hype. Given enough time, some heat, and lack of pressure diamonds degrade into graphite. Posted by: Ryan on July 16, 2006 01:24 PM Okay, geology and paleontology aren't my strong points but I found this; Some diamonds, known as harzburgitic, are formed from inorganic carbon originally found deep in the Earth's mantle. In contrast, eclogitic diamonds contain organic carbon from organic detritus that has been pushed down from the surface of the Earth's crust through subduction (see plate tectonics) before transforming into diamond. These two different source carbons have measurably different 13C:12C ratios. Diamonds that have come to the Earth's surface are generally very old, ranging from under 1 billion to 3.3 billion years old. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond#Formation I haven't really been following the whole abiotic vs biotic oil debate too closely so I won't say more than that. Posted by: Ryan on July 16, 2006 01:52 PM hey, wat are ten things made from coal, could u help me out plz thanxs Posted by: jay on August 4, 2006 11:36 PM hi, i need 10 things made from coal for extra credit, would you share?? Posted by: jess on August 27, 2006 03:23 AM Are diamonds really formed from coal? If so, why is it that coal, being organic, is not a mineral, but diamonds are? If they are made from something that is organic, are they considered organic? If they are, that would mean that diamonds don't fit the characteristics of minerals. Hum... How does this make sense? Posted by: Joy on September 13, 2006 05:00 PM The attached link asserts that the rule for defining minerals was intended to exculde biologically created materials like bones and pearls. definition of a mineral Personally, I think it's odd that amber is also called a 'mineral' even though it's fossilized tree sap. I'm not sure what the purpose of classifying certain compounds as 'minerals' is. Posted by: on September 13, 2006 06:27 PM My geography teacher has given us the question of are diamonds created from coal under extreme heat and pressure Posted by: tritt on November 28, 2006 05:36 PM haha. diamonds are not made out from coal. they're solely made out of carbon. carbon has 6 protons and 6 electrons. four of them are valence electrons;; which means it can bond with other electrons. well, i don't wnat to start going off with that subject. Posted by: on January 9, 2007 11:21 PM haha. diamonds are not made out from coal. they're solely made out of carbon. carbon has 6 protons and 6 electrons. four of them are valence electrons;; which means it can bond with other electrons. well, i don't wnat to start going off with that subject. Posted by: Kathy. on January 9, 2007 11:21 PM Kathy - I'm curious what substance you think coal is made out of? Posted by: Kathy on January 10, 2007 12:22 AM Kathy - I'm curious what substance you think coal is made out of? Or are you saying that you think coal has too many impurities? Posted by: Ryan on January 10, 2007 07:17 AM this inf o was really cool and learned alot from this but i got to ask what kind of coal is this made out of Posted by: sundai massey on May 16, 2007 06:43 AM diamonds are really cool Posted by: kayla stephens on May 16, 2007 06:45 AM Superman made a diamond from coal so it must be true Posted by: Rushback on September 18, 2007 04:24 PM I really needed the answer, and so I get to this site, which was the first one up on my google search for "things that use coal". I read all the comments, and find people talking about diamonds? Posted by: bobthebuilder on March 11, 2008 06:20 AM Add your two cents...
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I need to know 20 things that are made from coal for extra credit for World Geography..Can you help me please??
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