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I'm currently watching "Nature" on PBS, an episode on diamonds. They stated that diamonds are created from coal, approximate 100 miles down in the earth's crust. If coal is formed from petrochemicals, would it then follow that this is further evidence of the abiotic (non-biological) origins of petrochemicals, no? Another scientist has just appeared and dated diamonds at 2-3 billion years old. Again, this would be long before the life appeared and could have been decayed and converted into oil, and subsequently into coal. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Either of you, that is. :-) I want to know if you found 20 items from coal. would you share them with me? Posted by: Melody on May 13, 2004 02:03 PM Here's a novel idea... Posted by: Tim on May 14, 2004 02:01 PM Anyone of you: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH Posted by: on June 5, 2004 02:01 AM haters..... help a brotha and a sistah out! Posted by: Mandy on October 7, 2004 01:16 PM Isn't that what this site is for? For people to ask questions about things that are more difficult to find anywhere else?!! I think this site is the BEST for information on anything to do with school projects.. So all u out there who think those kids should "Do their own work" what are you doin here????That is what this site is FOR!!!! Learn from it don't discourage others from doing the same. Posted by: concerned mom on December 23, 2004 11:18 PM No, this blog is not for academic dishonesty. Think of the assignment: Name some things made from coal. What does the teacher want? The teacher wants the child to learn all about coal, and then realize the answer to that question as a smaller part of that learning. They want the child to read an entire article about coal and think for themselves -- not get someone else to do the assignment for them. Just giving the child the answer they want, without teaching them anything else about coal, does them a real disservice. And, of top of it, if the child does not give credit for where they got the answer, you're teaching plagiarism. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on December 28, 2004 12:45 PM If a student went to a librarian and asked "I need to know 20 things that are made from coal for extra credit for World Geography..Can you help me please??" Does the librarian a) do ALL the work for the student or b) give direction where the student can find the information he or she needs or c) jump down his or her throat and say "scram, kid, you bother me!" A student asked for help, not his or her homework to be done for them. I think Chantal should be given credit for exploring her options online. Have a heart, Tim. Maybe next year you won't get coal in your stocking ;) Posted by: on December 31, 2004 12:00 PM Anonymous coward, Let's see: I want students to learn, so I have no heart??? Yes, of course, how hateful of me. Not to mention judgemental of you. I've never said: "Scram kid, you bother me," as you falsely imply. Nor was my response given to "Chantal", as you also falsely assert. Look again. Futher, the comment I responded to wasn't, as you yet again falsely imply, an open-ended request for assistance. It was a request to simply be told the answer, not a place to look for it.
This is no different than one child asking the next: "What did you get for #4?" and then writing down whatever they're told. That's "cheating", last I checked, and, when rewarded, it's a damaging habit which will rob the child of achieving their true potential. Nor, as you also falsely implied (is there anything honest or accurate in your argument?), was this request addressed to me -- it was addressed to Chantal. Next, you seem to think I'm unhappy a child asked a question here. Of course not. Once again, you are simply distorting what was written: I'm unhappy one child was trying to copy the answer from another, rather than doing her own research. That troubles me, and I'm sorry to see it doesn't trouble you; perhaps you didn't even notice that was going on. That speaks poorly of the consideration you put into making an argument which attacks and denigrates another person. Shame on you. Or perhaps you did notice that, but you're a person who sees no problem with copying answers. Again, how sad. Apparently, you feel that because I have posted something here, I have a responsibility to determine and post the location of the answer to any question a commenter may pose, any time such a question is asked. Yet you posted here too, and could just as easily do the same work, and give the same hints, which you argue is very important to do. Yet have you done so? No, not at all. It was important for for someone else to do this -- just not your job. Perhaps this is why you are so sensitive to a simple admonishment that people "do their own work" and be responsible. It's not the children you are defending, instead, it touches on your own ethic, your protest is based on how it made you feel, not what was truly best for the child. Finally, you seem unhappy with the simple "do you own work" statement I posted here, and apparently want, instead, others to respond exactly as you wish them to. That comes off as intolerant; a person who is not happy until everyone is forced into her own mould. Good luck with all that. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on December 31, 2004 03:21 PM How do diamonds form fom coal? Posted by: anna on January 8, 2005 04:07 PM ok... well can u plzz help me out a bit by tellen me how diamonds can come in different coulars? coz iv been looken 4 ages and all i know is that its an impurity... so plzz help Posted by: Brian on February 9, 2005 12:27 AM D'oh!!!! Man I spend too much time on anti Quixtar Blog, I was realy thinking it was about Quixtar Daimonds :) Same good ol time getting personal attacks just for nothing :) Face it Tim, you do attract a lot of classics, no matter what you write about :-) PS: Quixtar diamonds are made of lies and deception. Posted by: Imran Aziz on February 10, 2005 01:11 AM D'oh!!!! Man I spend too much time on anti Quixtar Blog, I was really thinking it was about Quixtar Daimonds :) Same good ol Tim getting personal attacks just for nothing :) Face it Tim, you do attract a lot of classics, no matter what you write about :-) PS: Quixtar diamonds are made of lies and deception. Posted by: Imran Aziz on February 10, 2005 01:11 AM Imran: I love it. Sometimes it hurts a little, but it's like having your own little fishbowl with Internet denizens in it. e-Monkeys. :-) Brian: Diamonds are discolored because little bits of non-diamond stuff, called "impurities", get in them. Which kind of non-diamond stuff it is determines the color. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on February 10, 2005 02:21 AM For those of you with enough ethics to admonish those looking for an easy fix, I applaud your efforts. I grew up with books, not a chat room and agree that researching a topic is for the knowledge and growth of the child, not for the quick retreat to extra-curricular activities. Posted by: YOU RULE!!! on April 5, 2005 08:01 PM As a teacher I would be happy for my students to find the simple answer to twenty things that are made from coal. After that I would ask them what seems interesting to them. Once they've nominated one of the things made from coal I would say...research so that you can teach your peers. Posted by: Share-ALL on April 22, 2005 11:14 PM Diamonds are forever. Posted by: Jun Nishihara on July 18, 2005 11:08 AM Since no-one will help on this topic and I can't see knowledge wasted I will give you a summary. To understand where diamonds come from we should look at what they are made of. Diamonds are made up of carbon when it is under high pressure (about the weight of 180Km of rock pressing on it) and temperature 1100°C - 1400°C). This pressure and Temperature comes naturally deep within our earth and from the earths mantel. Search the web for more in depth answers. Your Friend B|ackF|ag - Das Und Das Einzig Posted by: B|ackF|ag on October 6, 2005 07:01 PM hey there is no way that diamond is made from coal. coal is black and diamond is clear. so there is no way that it can be possible. TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR! Posted by: on April 6, 2006 12:06 PM ahahahahh Posted by: heyya on June 8, 2006 12:49 PM ahahahahh Posted by: heyya on June 8, 2006 12:49 PM i thought that if you put pressur on coal you make a diamonds Posted by: chocolatebliss on July 15, 2006 01:32 AM Wikipedia is a great resource though it (and encyclopedias in general) are not always reliably accurate. It usually provides some good suggestions at least for beginning your research. go to; type in; Good luck and study hard. Posted by: Ryan on July 15, 2006 12:30 PM Interesting thought. Do you have any kind of link to the information, perhaps? Not that I don't trust you. But I've seen enough foul-ups in popular media that I'd just like to check things out before accepting the date given. Posted by: Ryan on July 15, 2006 12:36 PM To Share-All As a teacher I would be happy for my students to find the simple answer to twenty things that are made from coal. If this teacher wanted the students to have the information, they would have given it to their students directly rather than having strangers solicit the information. Knowing how to research a topic is more valuable than the knowledge itself. Posted by: ryan on July 16, 2006 01:04 PM Diamonds are forever. That's marketing hype. Given enough time, some heat, and lack of pressure diamonds degrade into graphite. Posted by: Ryan on July 16, 2006 01:24 PM Okay, geology and paleontology aren't my strong points but I found this; Some diamonds, known as harzburgitic, are formed from inorganic carbon originally found deep in the Earth's mantle. In contrast, eclogitic diamonds contain organic carbon from organic detritus that has been pushed down from the surface of the Earth's crust through subduction (see plate tectonics) before transforming into diamond. These two different source carbons have measurably different 13C:12C ratios. Diamonds that have come to the Earth's surface are generally very old, ranging from under 1 billion to 3.3 billion years old. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond#Formation I haven't really been following the whole abiotic vs biotic oil debate too closely so I won't say more than that. Posted by: Ryan on July 16, 2006 01:52 PM hey, wat are ten things made from coal, could u help me out plz thanxs Posted by: jay on August 4, 2006 11:36 PM hi, i need 10 things made from coal for extra credit, would you share?? Posted by: jess on August 27, 2006 03:23 AM Are diamonds really formed from coal? If so, why is it that coal, being organic, is not a mineral, but diamonds are? If they are made from something that is organic, are they considered organic? If they are, that would mean that diamonds don't fit the characteristics of minerals. Hum... How does this make sense? Posted by: Joy on September 13, 2006 05:00 PM The attached link asserts that the rule for defining minerals was intended to exculde biologically created materials like bones and pearls. definition of a mineral Personally, I think it's odd that amber is also called a 'mineral' even though it's fossilized tree sap. I'm not sure what the purpose of classifying certain compounds as 'minerals' is. Posted by: on September 13, 2006 06:27 PM My geography teacher has given us the question of are diamonds created from coal under extreme heat and pressure Posted by: tritt on November 28, 2006 05:36 PM haha. diamonds are not made out from coal. they're solely made out of carbon. carbon has 6 protons and 6 electrons. four of them are valence electrons;; which means it can bond with other electrons. well, i don't wnat to start going off with that subject. Posted by: on January 9, 2007 11:21 PM haha. diamonds are not made out from coal. they're solely made out of carbon. carbon has 6 protons and 6 electrons. four of them are valence electrons;; which means it can bond with other electrons. well, i don't wnat to start going off with that subject. Posted by: Kathy. on January 9, 2007 11:21 PM Kathy - I'm curious what substance you think coal is made out of? Posted by: Kathy on January 10, 2007 12:22 AM Kathy - I'm curious what substance you think coal is made out of? Or are you saying that you think coal has too many impurities? Posted by: Ryan on January 10, 2007 07:17 AM this inf o was really cool and learned alot from this but i got to ask what kind of coal is this made out of Posted by: sundai massey on May 16, 2007 06:43 AM diamonds are really cool Posted by: kayla stephens on May 16, 2007 06:45 AM Superman made a diamond from coal so it must be true Posted by: Rushback on September 18, 2007 04:24 PM I really needed the answer, and so I get to this site, which was the first one up on my google search for "things that use coal". I read all the comments, and find people talking about diamonds? Posted by: bobthebuilder on March 11, 2008 06:20 AM i want tah knOw the 20 things that coal is made out of................... Posted by: confused girl on September 3, 2008 04:51 PM For the record, you're going to have to do your own homework. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on September 4, 2008 11:26 AM that sucks for u i need to know 3 can u help me? Posted by: bob on November 12, 2008 12:51 PM Way to go Tim, but I thought you could've softened the language against Anonymous from a full frontal assault to something like a gentle rebuke. It seemed like corporal punishment. I wholeheartedly agree with you but a tongue lashing was a bit severe, especially because I thought Mr. or Ms. Anonymous' reply was tongue-in-cheek. Posted by: Norm on December 22, 2008 03:29 PM First, I thank you for your comment: supportive bits and critical parts both. Feedback is always useful and welcomed. I thought you could've softened the language against Anonymous from a full frontal assault to something like a gentle rebuke. I think you've got a point: there was probably room for a bit of "tone smithing" there. Particularly in this example, I can see a number of phrasing I would change, in retrospect. Yet on the other hand, I find it amusing what people notice. Not to complain, but to recap: Even after explaining why I think handing out the answers is unhelpful to kids, I'm accused of hating children and being bothered by them, of yelling at them, of being the kind of mean person who regularly receives coal in my stocking, of shirking my duties (not shared by the commenter, of course) etc. These are, quite frankly, a quite blunt set of rather personal indictments. And I agree I could have reworked my response a bit, tonally — BUT, it makes me wonder, how far does one have to go? And how much of it was wrong tone, versus: "Well, please suppress that content. It makes me uncomfortable when you say it, no matter how nicely." And regarding tone, I agree, but what IS the standard? Perfection? If you read back a bit, I had just explained, rather nicely, my concern for kids which motivated me to refuse to answer. See the comment right above Anonymous's. And what response did that "nice answer" generate? Yet another accusation of being harsh, mean-hearted, and lazy. --- I'm increasingly convinced the rules are this: We mentally lump people into "good" or perhaps "responsible people" and "bad people." We're conditioned hold the "responsible people" to a standard of nothing less than perfection, while we hold the "bad people" to no standards at all. Hamas, unprovoked, lobs missiles into Israel, hey, no problem. The press won't even cover it. Israel responds, taking out a missile battery (an alleged "bystander" was killed!), and the front pages are covered with endless charges and complaints about a lack of "proportionality." We expect perfection from Israel, and hold Hamas to no standards at all, or, if we do, perfunctorily, so we can get to the all-important "BUT" without losing our moral credibility. I'm regularly accused of all manner of evil. Or I see others being accused in rather dire terms: Dick Cheney is greedy and corrupt, the US funds genocide around the world, etc. Write a fact-based response -- even if it includes ZERO personal comments (see the first several comments) -- and you're in for moralistic tut-tutting and clucking. You're broken one of society's unwritten taboos. It seems sometimes that offering a effective evidence-based answer is, itself, the real offense. (And never, never point out that the person is guilty what they've just alleged.) We're not supposed to take the attacker seriously (oh, they were just joking!) (really?) but we take the response completely seriously, and weigh it endlessly.
Case in point. No doubt the comment about receiving coal was tongue-in-cheek, but the underlying accusation of meanness was also reflected in the rest of the comment, which wasn't at all tongue-in-cheek. Anonymous really did believe it was my obligation (but not hers, of course) to act as a reference librarian, and really did seem to think I was being unduly harsh for suggesting students complete their own assignments. --- Ryan, on the other hand, has bent over backwards to do everything she said the kids wanted. And what do we see in the mean time? A continuing stream of commenters who are so dreadfully lazy they couldn't even read his attempts to help and follow the link. (Or even bother to spell their request for help correctly.) Much less a "thanks!" to him. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on December 23, 2008 01:14 PM I think that 'Tim' guy is a jerk for not helping someone out. Just givum a link or something. There not asking for you to cheat. and so what if they are. it cant be traced back to you. by the way. Posted by: the IAN on January 11, 2009 01:16 PM IAN - Perhaps 'getting caught' is not what Tim is worried about? Having been a teacher myself, I'd never let a student cheat. But again, if you're looking for information on coal why not just type 'coal' into wikipedia. This really shouldn't be so difficult that you need help from bloggers. If your teacher wanted someone to just tell you the information, they would have just told you themselves. (And why does this site attract so many kids too lazy to do their own homework?! Man...) Posted by: Ryan W. on January 11, 2009 02:01 PM It's nice to read someone who questions things. I hope you will choose the topic of dinasaurs and fossils. Fossils are not bone at all but a copy replacement made of minerals during fossilization. I just learned by doing my own extensive research that on record scientists dont have the actual bones of dinasuars just their fossils(from one piece to the entire dinasaur). The bones wouldnt have lasted so many millions of years. Fossilization is a very rare and complex process which would make it near impossible for so many different species of dinasaurs including their eggs to be found. If anything a toe or a tooth here and there might be found fossilized but not an entire dinasaur, eggs with the embryo inside or especially mass grave areas. It's amazing that so many dinasaurs after they died fell into a river or body of water, sunk and got covered -especially since dinasaurs didnt all live in the same area or era- to be fossilized, That would mean the perfect catastrophic events happened to cause the perfect conditions of immediate buriel by dirt or water so these dragon like creatures ( myth for centuries) could survive being eaten by predators or the rotting process. As we see now most animals when they die in the wild are eaten by predators or rot quickly so very little is left behind to meet the near impossible conditions of the fossilization process. I learned a lot more but will not go on and on. Posted by: Ann on January 12, 2009 01:35 PM My husband wanted to buy me a pair of diamond earrings for xmas so I looked at alot of stores today and they all had a different idea as to how they are made which are better, that's why they cost more, yeah right, anyway one idiot told me that they put ice in the freezer and froze it and that's how they made diamonds. Wonder if they will be melted by the time they get here. I read as many of the questions I could before I decided that all of you people are trying to get free information so you won't have to look it up, must be bad eyesight, old age or just stupdity or laxyness. P l e a s e Posted by: Fire on December 5, 2009 09:41 PM how are diamonds made from coal???? answer ma question fast because i need it for monday.. lol.. Posted by: ana on March 4, 2010 10:38 PM haha.. sucker be on diz lame sh*t caz ya aaiight got nun betta to do with dey life.. Posted by: ana niggez on March 4, 2010 10:40 PM ya hoes be on diz sh*t lky if diz were 2 be inportant!!!!! who eva invented diz website need to get a life and da pplz da have 1 get a fuking life.. lol.. ya hoes aiight got nun 2 do dan to be on diz lame ass website.. jk jk.. but diz sh*t iz lame as a mo fo thou. lky ppl be typeing things in fo fun in diz shit but to me aiight no point of writeing in diz sh*t unless u bored o need help in sunthang but other dan da diz sh*t like a mother trucker.. for all u ppl da have one of diz ya need to get a life.. (no afence by da way) but for realz ya h03$ need to get sunthang oder dan helping out ppl in diz stupid sh*t lol... i am bored as fuk ryt na. da iz y i am writeing things in diz lame as mother fuking sh*t but w.e.... iama go to sleep and dan wake up in da morning to go to skool and go party or sumthing becaz i acutaely got a life.. i am da only one da has a life in diz B*t*h.. haha.. lame as fuken niggez go get a dam life.. ii am fo realz.. wake up and smel da roses because u aiight geting no were with diz lame ass fuking sh*t.. goodnite every body and have a great sleep... i waz Jk Jk bout everything but ya ppl really need to get a life. ba brids Posted by: ana niggaz on March 4, 2010 10:52 PM hope ya change ur mind bout living on da cumputer with diz website... answer ma question plz... lol.. ewww i said plzzz.. i hate when i do da but answer ma dam question mother trucker.. ily ppl just don't stay ur life being in da cumputer... da iz really bad fo certain ppl... Posted by: ma name iz ana b1+chz on March 4, 2010 10:57 PM hope ya change ur mind bout living on da cumputer with diz website... answer ma question plz... lol.. ewww i said plzzz.. i hate when i do da but answer ma dam question mother trucker.. ily ppl just don't stay ur life being in da cumputer... da iz really bad fo certain ppl... Posted by: ma name iz ana b1+chz on March 4, 2010 10:57 PM when did they find out this information? Posted by: on March 14, 2011 04:52 PM when did they find out this information? Posted by: on March 14, 2011 04:52 PM when did they find out this information? Posted by: on March 14, 2011 04:52 PM Add your two cents...
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I need to know 20 things that are made from coal for extra credit for World Geography..Can you help me please??
Posted by: chantal on April 20, 2004 06:49 PM