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Lookin' Out My Back Door...

Illinois Senator Durbin appears deeply concerned that Gitmo detainees were kept too warm or cool while being interrogated. He argues such treatment makes the US look bad. Yet this sort of thing -- much, much worse, and in his own backyard-- apparently hasn't provoked any similar or greater complaint from him:

Over the last two decades, Chicago, Illinois has earned the reputation of having one of the highest rates of police coerced false confessions in the United States. Many documented cases involved the use of unusually brutal tactics, including electric shock, beatings and using a plastic bag to restrict oxygen.

Electric shock? Beatings? I'll take the chilly room or the one with the dog, thanks! Somehow, I suspect concern about harsh treatment, anytime or anywhere, isn't really Senator Durbin's driving motivation here.

Maybe I'm just a rube, brainwashed by Karl Rove's mighty mind-control machine, but I can't help but wonder: if we can't even make detainees uncomfortable, then what are we supposed to do? Do we just sit by idly and let people die because we can't do anything to attempt to get information from terrorists? I mean, seriously, what is Durbin proposing we do instead -- just release them? Will he sign a release form, saying he'll be accountable for any attacks they might commit after their release?

Finally, if keeping someone in a room "over a hundred degrees" (I spent an entire summer living in such temperatures with no air conditioning, thanks) is just like the Khmer Rouge's killing fields, then what does it mean to actually beat or shock someone?

We are out of comparisons.


Update: Senator Durbin has apologized for his remarks. If it's fair to excoriate him, then it's also fair to give credit where due. Good for him: it takes a lot to do something like that. Consider the criticism in this post mooted and rescinded. If he took back the remarks, then the counter-argument no longer applies either.

Comments

I think you might want to re-evaluate Senator Durbin's apology. When I read it, it didn't strike me as a man apologizing for what he said, rather a man apologizing for the reactions to what he said. I don't believe he ever explicitly stated that he wished to take back his comments, and that they were wrong or out of line. He basically apologized for offending anyone, which to me is not the same as taking back one's statement or admitting that the statement was in error and degrading to our troops and our country.

Posted by: Troy on June 22, 2005 04:40 PM

I understand, you have to move on, there are plenty of other things, even more important things, to worry about, and I, like you, had little faith that Senator Durbin would face any real consequences for his statements. Its just the way America works these days, Republicans get lynched, Democrats get off; but I don't believe the American people will forget this when it comes time for the mid-term elections. Hopefully we can hold on to a nice majority in the Senate thanks in part to the unhinged nature of the modern Democratic party.

Speaking of more important things to worry about, I hope you have an article coming up in response to this absolutely outrageous Supreme Court decision today. If this isn't the death knell of private property rights I don't know what is.

Posted by: Troy on June 23, 2005 04:21 PM

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