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Primitive Us: Nasty, Brutish, and Short

Via Instapundit, finally, somebody's finally exposing the public to something I've been aware of for a while. Yet another entry in the everything-we-know-is-wrong file:

Two billion war deaths would have occurred in the 20th century if modern societies suffered the same casualty rate as primitive peoples, according to anthropologist Lawrence H Keeley, who calculates that two-thirds of them were at war continuously, typically losing half of a percent of its population to war each year.

Missionaries I've met and read about were often good about recording the way societies they encountered lived: and the endlessly recurring theme was the endless cycle of revenge and honor killings -- in Papua, New Guinea, in South America, in Africa... belief in Jesus, when embraced, is the key which breaks the cycle of violence.

See The Point of the Spear for one example among many.

That raises the question: Why, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, does popular culture portray primitives as peace-loving folk living in harmony with nature, as opposed to rapacious and brutal civilization? Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel, which attributes civilization to mere geographical accident, made a best-seller out of a mendacious apology for the failure of primitive society. Wade reports research that refutes Diamond on a dozen counts, but his book never will reach the vast audience that takes comfort in Diamond's pulp science.

I sometimes suspect we have a gut feeling for lies, and subconsciously detect and embrace them readily.

Why is it that the modern public revels in a demonstrably false portrait of primitive life? Hollywood grinds out stories of wise and worthy native Americans, African tribesmen, Brazilian rainforest people and Australian Aborigines, not because Hollywood studio executives hired the wrong sort of anthropologist, but because the public pays for them...

As opposed to what? Which movies, produced after the 1950s, have portrayed primitive peoples as living short, brutish, and nasty lives? It's meaningless to say this idea has popular demand since the contemporary public is never exposed to a competing vision.

(Nor could they be, since the backlash would be tremendous -- cries of "racism" would undoubtedly abound.)

Native Americans, Eskimos, New Guinea Highlanders as well as African tribes slaughtered one another with skill and vigor, frequently winning their first encounters with modern armed forces. "Even in the harshest possible environments [such as northwestern Alaska] where it was struggle enough just to keep alive, primitive societies still pursued the more overriding goal of killing one another," Wade notes....

The author goes on to ponder about what our quest for "authentic" (i.e. fantasy) primitivism means for modern man, especially homo Americanus. Worth reading, IMO.

Comments

Okay, I read the article.

Colonial guilt at the extermination of tribal societies does not go very far as an explanation, for the Westerners who were close enough to primitives to exterminate them rarely regretted having done so.

Isn't this rather like saying that Germans can never feel guilty for the holocaust because the brutes who worked the gas chambers didn't?

Of course, for all I know settlers and gas chamber operators may have felt very guilty for what they did. And folks who gave blankets from tuburculosis victims to native americans might have felt guilty as well. Then again, maybe they saw the gift as being in self defense? Or as killing non-humans? Just because they justified slaughter, should we?

I agree with those who say that we can't 'go back' because the land wouldn't support the population of America living as hunter-gatherers according to the native american lifestyle. But if you want a fairly clearheaded view of older killing practices where people were close enough to see each other check out the book "On Killing".

And how many times has the US gone to war in this century alone? Whether there was a good reason or not misses the point. This author doesn't ask whether 'primitive' people had good reasons for their perpetual cycles of killing either.

Nations have always been testing their power against one another and there's no reason to believe that the US is an exception to this.

You've said before, and I believed you when you said it; the most dangerous moral philosophies were those like the Nazis and Communists which say to their followers "You're basically good. It's those others who are really evil. So YOUR killing of innocents is okay by comparison for whatever reason."

Posted by: Ryan on July 4, 2006 02:40 PM

I think its rather more like saying that Germans don't feel guilty about the Holocaust because they were not a part of the S.S.

Westerners feel little or no guilt about tribal slaughter because we didn't take part in it, do not approve of it, and would have seen it as morally offensive.

I really don't understand where this concept of generational guilt that the left seems so obsesses with originates from. You don't expect the child of a serial killer to feel guilty over his father's actions do you? You don't expect the daughter of a rapist to make reperations to her father's victims I hope? If these are not okay, then how can we make the claim that such a thing on a larger, civilization wide scale makes any sense?

If you want to support such an idea, you must first carry it through to its ultimate logical conclusion. If generations should feel guilty and/or make reperations over the misdeeds of their fathers, then why not condemn leftists who don't feel any guilt over what Stalin, Mao, and Pol-Pot did? They shouldn't feel guilt over such actions because they're idealogical brothers of the past did not? Yet even though this is logical conclusion of such thinking, I don't see liberals and socialists in any hurry to give apologizes or reperations to Russians, Chinese, or Cambodians who were effected by the untold slaughter of the leftist regimes of the past.

Posted by: Troy on July 16, 2006 05:49 PM

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