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First, let me state that I was in favor of what we -- the US, led by Command-in-Chief, President Bill Clinton, who I generally* supported in this matter -- did in the 1990s: Getting involved in Kosovo, protecting the Muslim population against genocide by the Serbs. Or so I had been told, and so I'd believed. But perhaps things were not at all as they seemed. (* I was in favor of our being involved, militarily. But I wasn't in favor of the specific tactic we chose: massive, indiscriminate arial bombings. I felt, instead, we needed to have eyes and boots on the ground, to see firsthand if something was going on, and stop it if so. Those misgivings seem now to have been prescient...) Eric, of "Conservative Liberal", following leads from Julia Gorin's blog, links to several blogs with extremely graphic photos, apparently documenting a slaughter of 3,870 Serbian civilians by jihadists operating in Bosnia. Which led, in turn, to letters like this one, a complaint to Australia's version of 60 Minutes:
Indeed, given the photographic evidence, why were we never told this at the time? The numbers cited by this letter-writer are truly stunning: could this be so? I'd like to say "no", but given that many still deny the Amenian genocide (at least 600,000 killed), and the tragedy in East Timor, allegations like these don't seem so unlikely.
(1) After viewing the photos, I can, perhaps, understand the Serbian reaction. But I want to be clear: indiscriminate slaughter of civilians by one group doesn't justify indiscriminate slaughter by another. (2) BUT, given that we weren't told this side of the story, the press's coverage is already revealed to be suspect. What else, if anything weren't we told? (a) Eric raises the possibility that we might have seen, on the other side, a inflation, and even manufacturing, of atrocities like the one exposed in Jenin (and, I'd add, numerous other occasions). Is that possible? Or was that part of the story still reasonablly reliable? This guy clearly doesn't think so, and cites a Daily Telegraph report which allegedly says: "After five days of interviews the United Nations chief investigator into alleged human rights abuses during the fall of Srebrenica has not found any firsthand witnesses of atrocities." (b) Are the numbers suggested in letter the above accurate? Tens and even hundreds of thousands of civlians murdered by Islamists in the Balkans? (3) Did we back the wrong side? Or should we have simply fought the extremists on both sides? Or were there extremists on both sides? Were accusations of war crimes against Serbians justified? (4) As is typical in a situation like this (which happens, sadly, several times a year, it seems), I feel disoriented. Yesterday, I had accepted pretty much everything I'd been told about Kosovo and our involvement there. Today, not so much so: those photos look quite real, features match, everything. (And frankly, when I see brains and hearts pulled out of bodies, genitals cut off, and ritual burnings, I suspect the the same kind of people who used similar tactics in Sudan.)
It's part of de-leftistizing myself, I guess. I keep having experiences like these, a sinking feeling and: "Oh, gosh, was that wrong too?" So much of what I've been told and taught has turned out to be false. I was shocked to discover Reagan, who I'd disliked, was right: the poor did better under "Voodoo Economics", as the press snidely dubbed it. And he wasn't merely a stupid actor, reciting ideas that came from other people, as the press had also insisted. And mininum wage really does increase unemployment among the poor. And income inequality is a good sign, including for the poor, not a bad one. And FDR's policies were actually a strong part of the reason what should have been a short recession became the Great Depression. And we actually were winning during the Tet Offensive. And, as Cambodia and Laos proved, the "Domino Theory" wasn't a myth after all. And people didn't believe the world was flat in the middle ages. So many, many lies, where the papers and TV news only report one view. And now this. Any further info would be welcomed. One more part of history I've got to relearn from scratch. Sheesh. As Mark Twain said: "When I don't the papers, I'm uninformed. But when I read the papers, then I'm mis-informed." Add your two cents...
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YES, YES, YES!! Glad to see another person realizing the truth here. Painting the Serbs as "the bad guys" is totally nuts -- ALL sides were equally bad in that horrendous mess. The Serbs simply happened to have the strongest military of all the groups (since they were essentially the core of the old Yugoslavian government). But somehow Clinton, Albright, and Co. decided Serbia was the only guilty party and needed to pay.
It gets even worse, though, when focusing on Kosovo in particular. Kosovo is in Serbia, but has a minority of Albanians who, bolstered by infiltrators and arms smuggling from neighboring Albania, tried to forcibly break away in the late 1990s. This included ethnic cleansing against local Serbs and the systematic obliteration of Serbian cultural and religious heritage in the region (eg torching churches). Serbia quite reasonably attempted to stop this, but unfortunately for them, our government stupidly applied the template of Big Bad Serbians vs. Innocent Little Albanians and bombed them yet again. Incidentally, Kosovo today is a corrupt basket case still overseen by UN agencies, gradually slipping into the endemic criminality that marks Albania itself. Great job, Madeline!
Posted by: Varenius on March 20, 2007 02:01 PM