Cho Seung Hui: Dishing it out to the "Rich and Privileged"
Politics
| April 18, 2007
| Tim
Sadly, as with Ted Kaczynski, this is what I'd guessed we'd find, politically:
Authorities found two three-page notes in his dorm room after the shootings. They weren't suicide notes and provided no clue about why he did what he did. Instead, they were expletive-filled rants against the rich and privileged, even naming people who he thought had kept him down, federal and state law enforcement sources said.
These writings "provided no clue about why he did what he did?" No, a man writes a long treatise about his view of the world -- and then goes off to kill the very same people he thinks have wronged him -- and it provides "no clue" about his motives?
The content of his rant reminds me of a recent debate with another fellow from the same part of the political spectrum:
I doubt there's really anything I could say to convince you that the wealthy elite who vote their pocketbook are a**holes who should be put down at society's earliest convinience. [sic]
My response was: "Yes, you're right: you probably won't be able to talk me into murdering all the members of one particular social class -- rich, poor, or otherwise. But thanks for displaying the vaunted liberal 'tolerance' for all my readers..."
I'm certainly not saying that far-lefties are would-be mass killers (though their chronic unhappiness makes them far closer to it than most conservatives) -- or vise-versa -- just that victimization -- the belief one has been wronged and is therefore entitled to violate moral norms -- is an important part of these kind of crimes. That can include the belief that one has been wronged by co-workers, or an object of affection. Or a political ideology, as with Ted Kaczynski and this fellow.
And, if nothing else, the left thrives on and encourages a sense of victimization. I hear it hear all the time: Because the people you disagree with are "Rethuglicans", they should all be killed, "re-educated", etc. The amount of nascent violence (by which I mean the real kind, not the "violence" of suggesting conservative ideas) in leftist discourse is frequently disturbing.
And Random Observations is a comparatively tepid place.
You've hit the nail on the head. The liberals in this world seem to find some sort of comfort in making excuses for everybody and everything in this world. They come up with false logic like "My son misbehaves (and hits/ bullies other kids) in class because he has ADHD" and "She killed him because he was verbally abusive towards her". Nothing is anybody's fault anymore. Not our actions, our debts, or really any of our choices. I would speculate that it's easier for these people to live with themselves and the people around them if they can make excuses for it instead of take responsibility for it. The bottom line is that we don't like unpleasant and bad things. So when somebody can else can make an excuse to turn it into something acceptable a lot of people jump on board. For me all of these people have a choice. Many of these shooters could have found other ways express their unhappiness without killing or injuring a single person. But they choose the path of violence and killing intentionally. I don't feel sorry for anyone who chooses to take another persons life as a solution to their unhappiness. They should be subject to the full consequences of their choice. In my view those people are not the victims of their situation. So I guess that makes me some kind of an evil person. I think I can live with that.
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They should be subject to the full consequences of their choice.
Um... he killed himself.
The bottom line is that we don't like unpleasant and bad things. So when somebody can else can make an excuse to turn it into something acceptable a lot of people jump on board.
First, as Tim acknowledged, this person's actions are not representative of 'liberalism' in general, though it seems to resemble a lot of violent causes in that the shooter perceives some injustice, real or imagined. (in this case, probably imagined.)
But if what you're saying here is true, liberals (I hate the word, since it blurs the distinction between classical and social liberalism, which are radically different) should see the world as a basically good place where nothing much goes wrong. But they don't. I'm sure that a lot of people in fact feel quite powerless right now. The reaction to that condition is, sometimes, for people to internalize control of the situation and wonder if there was something else that they could have done to have avoided the problem. And I know that hindsight is 20/20 but this is especially true in this case, since some teachers seemed to have been alarmed enough at Cho's behavior to notify the police and authorities.
Who do you feel is calling you a bad person, Michelle?
For a small point of clarification I don't consider suicide after such an act a consequence. It's an act of cowardice to me. It's starting to appear that it was his own attempt to start a career in martyrdom (sadly possibly a successful one at that).
I truly do not think that anybody thinks me a bad person. As an educator, I do constantly find that my hands are tied when it comes to truly helping my kids. Most often this is because a child's behavior is overlooked because of a learning or social delay. I find that I am told to overlook things that with the right help a child could be truly successful. I also frequently am forced to tolerate behavior that I would never accept from a child without problems. It's a safety issue for all the kids I work with at times. Really I'm just frustrated by the society that we live in. Those teachers did report Cho and their reports fell on deaf ears in the end. In some small way I almost know how they feel.
... or maybe there are some people who don't think their own actions have consequences.
As Radiohead would say, "you do it to yourself, you do, and that's what really hurts; you do it to yourself, just you, you and no-one else."
cho seung hui in my opinion was aclassic MK candidate for various agendas we see already emerging and will be just another unfortunate victim along with his trane.Pray for all of them and do not make judgement that is for ONE even yourFATHER in Heaven.
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You've hit the nail on the head. The liberals in this world seem to find some sort of comfort in making excuses for everybody and everything in this world. They come up with false logic like "My son misbehaves (and hits/ bullies other kids) in class because he has ADHD" and "She killed him because he was verbally abusive towards her". Nothing is anybody's fault anymore. Not our actions, our debts, or really any of our choices. I would speculate that it's easier for these people to live with themselves and the people around them if they can make excuses for it instead of take responsibility for it. The bottom line is that we don't like unpleasant and bad things. So when somebody can else can make an excuse to turn it into something acceptable a lot of people jump on board. For me all of these people have a choice. Many of these shooters could have found other ways express their unhappiness without killing or injuring a single person. But they choose the path of violence and killing intentionally. I don't feel sorry for anyone who chooses to take another persons life as a solution to their unhappiness. They should be subject to the full consequences of their choice. In my view those people are not the victims of their situation. So I guess that makes me some kind of an evil person. I think I can live with that.
Posted by: Michelle on April 18, 2007 10:58 PM