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A number of near-libertarian friends of mine (hi!) have been insisting to me that Ron Paul has the right stance on many issues. So I thought I'd take a look at his website and see. As I peruse the high-level descriptions linked from his "Issues" page, I'm reminded that last time I looked at Obama's web site I found it mostly agreeable too: I wouldn't have guessed, at that time (it's gotten more honestly liberal since then) that I was visiting the website of the Senate's farthest-left member. So I don't see anything hugely un-conservative about his "debt and taxes" page, which is written in the same kind of high-level language in which most candidates tell us they love puppies, families, and freedom. So far so good. Free TradeBut we start running into trouble on the next link: American Independence and Sovereignty. I agree about the World Court (of course) and all that, but... Ron hates NAFTA and apparently thinks it's anti-free-trade. I tend to think tarriff reductions are closer to "free trade", but hey, what would I know? I'm just a consistent conservative type who thinks more trade is better. He also blithely propagates the myth about the fictional "NAFTA superhighway", which is debunked, among other places, here:
Unless someone can prove the above wrong: It scares me to see someone so ill-informed on national policy (while being outspoken) running for President. And I don't see what's scary, per se, about a highway to Mexico, anyway -- provided it's policed no worse than other existing routes and doesn't mess with private property any more than any other road we've built.
Err, hmmm??? To these ears, Ron is coming across as a blithering nut-job by saying such things. How would a road erase borders? And a ROAD ain't gonna establish an American equivalent of the EU. Is his phrasing careless? Or this rendering -- scarier still -- an accurate reflection of how his train of thought proceeds?
While I agree in general with the broader thrust of this statement, it's utterly meaningless. All agreements "infringe freedom." I give up an absolute right to do and say whatever I want all day in return for a paycheck. And all trade deals are like that, also: You drop your barriers to entry, and we'll drop ours. As long as we don't end up agreeing some hypothetical world government has the right to come in and arrest us directly for violations (and I don't think any of the Republican candidates are up for that), such deals are only meaningful as long as we decide to honor them. Just like my employment. So in the end, Ron Paul, the alleged free-market conservative, is spewing semi-leftist tripe about the evils of free trade agreements and roads. Sigh. War and Foreign PolicyHere again Ron finds himself firmly aligned with the left. I don't mean in his position (though that appears somewhat similar) but in the level of honesty in his rhetoric. In fact, he repeats the same tendentious talking points the left uses:
While even a small amount of incorrect information (such as that from "Curveball") would render Paul's precise phrasing correct, such assertions are, nonetheless, deceptive -- implying, as they do in this political environment, that Bush knew this information was mostly false. And if Ron Paul wants to "make sure it never happens again" that we depose a dictator who has already invaded several neighbors, attempted to assassinate a sitting US president, and whom ALL the world's intel organizations said was trying to acquire WMD -- well, then he strikes me as being as foolish as Dennis Kucinich. (Or is it just that if we would have left the mideast alone, Saddam wouldn't today control Kuwait and Saudi Arabia -- and be making moves to threaten war with Israel? Since he seems to be implying that, I think it's a reasonable question.) Next, he plays on his audience's historical ignorance (or perhaps merely exposes his own, if he really believes this):
I agree that we should withdraw some of our troops from other nations (though probably for entirely different reasons that Ron Paul would offer). But his use of Jefferson and Washington here is simply wrong: Jefferson himself deployed the Marines to Tripoli, where they seized that nation's government. Oh, and all that was done without a Declaration of War. Jefferson didn't violate the Constitution -- he simply knew what was in it. Unlike Ron Paul. (The Constitution simply outlines how to declare war -- nowhere does it prohibit us from sending troops abroad without such a declaration.) By Ron Paul's own reasoning, he should be arguing against Jefferson as a potential despot -- not invoking his image. Given a sufficiently convincing argument (omitted here, apparently) I could possibly be persuaded that a Declaration of War might be a better move than the post-WWII trend of only "authorizing force". Yet the one offering such should demonstrate at least a basic understanding of US history, and the historical interpretation of the Constitution regarding the use of force abroad. And Paul's invocation of "Jefferson" in this context is too absurd for words.
Sigh. Must Paul get everything wrong? We didn't go to war as a result of that resolution (excuse me, those many resolution) -- we weren't compelled to do so in the slightest. We went to war because Bush thought it would be the right thing to do, and because Congress authorized use of force. And the UN resolutions themselves were only restatements of the US's former concerns about Iraq. Had he said something different: like the UN was harmful, or those resolutions were wrong -- he'd have my respect still. But the statement he actually offers here is simply a lie: the US was in no way compelled by the UN to go into Iraq. (The case was quite the opposite: people argue we shouldn't have gone in because we didn't have explicit UN authorization. Or did Ron miss that part of the debate?) I have no respect for those who rewrite history, even subtly like this (or perhaps, especially subtly, like this) -- they scare me more than any other class of people. Foreign Aid
I'm entirely good with giving less foreign aid -- I've advocated less foreign aid many a-time. And anyone who reads my blog knows full well how much I hate "Realpolitik", in which we blindly support awful dictators. And I've even argued we should utterly boycott dictatorships like China and Cuba. But Ron is going much further, and drawing a series of false connections here. He implies we are despised primarily because we have, at times, supported bad governments. Really? Let's get serious: the world loves Palestine over Israel. Which is better and more democratic? Which do we support? The world generally hates the US more than China, and effectively favored Hitler over most of Eastern Europe -- even as influential elements in the US and Europe said Hitler's actions were justified by the terms of Versailles. Ron Paul is a moral idiot if he thinks world opinion follows and approves of those who act morally. Yet that's precisely what he's saying here. World opinion clearly stood up for Saddam in this most recent contest between him and the US. So was the US despised in that context because we supported Saddam briefly during the Iran/Iraq war? Let's not be foolish: the French, Germans, and Russia lent far more support in recent times -- and yet were still morally preening before the international community. Had we not supported Saddam to that tiny (and I mean tiny) extent, it would have made absolutely no difference: France's position was determined by a stead stream of stolen oil-for-food money and a promised trillion-dollar oil contract; Russia and Germany's stances were determined by the fact they'd been arming that bastard; China always opposes US interests when it's an option, and Spain's populace has deeply hated the US since at least the 1980s. (And has the moral sensibility to do whatever terrorists tell them after a good bombing or two.) Conversely, we're mostly hated in the very "good" countries we've supported: though we seem to have experienced a recent upturn (thank God), France, whom who we rescued from Hitler and protected from Stalin, has famously despised us. So has Germany as of late. And we're deeply hated in South Korea, which currently has more affection for Pyongyang (presumably, applying Ron Paul's logic, because they must act more morally than we do). There's no room for such stunning naivete in public office, much less the Presidency. I expect that kind of polyanna attitude from the left, not someone who claims to be a more sober "conservative". The traditional conservative case for isolation was always that we should stay out of other countries because we were too good for them. Ron Paul has apparently ingested, and is regurgitating, the liberal inversion of that argument. This strikes me as a sign of someone who's only comfortable being in a position of opposition, and has no affirmative ideas or solutions. Stay out of it, get rid of the current leadership, and all will be well in some vague, unspecified way. As if al Qaeda wouldn't have built their bases in Somalia instead of Aghanistan, and as if Saddam hadn't been training terrorists at Salman Pak, and as if Islamists wouldn't still have hated us for allowing our women to attend church dances, and for our continuing support of Israel? (Or shouldn't we be supporting Israel either, Mr. Paul, given the massive unpopularity that earns us? How nice to have the luxury of being so vague. It's not like you have to hold public office or something. Unlike a mere blogger like myself. Oh wait: It appears *I'm* offering the more detailed and nuanced view of the world, here. How very, very scary.) Privacy, Liberty, and Property RightsOn privacy, he seems again confused: do we need more or less government intervention?
Umm, that's because the free market allows them to -- that's why. The same reason your phone company can sell your call records. One minute he says he thinks the government is the biggest threat -- the next minute he's implying it should be used to tell companies exactly how to use the information they can gather. One would like to know the guiding philosophy here. Though he spends half a page on a version of the Patriot Act which was never passed, he spends two sentences on the Kelo decision, which actually does apply today -- and then quickly reverts to ranting about the "NAFTA Superhighway" again! And, more annoyingly, I noticed he again repeats liberal talking points -- saying the Patriot Act "required libraries and bookstores to turn over records of books read", but not mentioning that a warrant is required. (What, does he believe this information should unavailable even with a warrant?) Again, though I'd agree broadly on some of this points here, his focus seems unbalanced, and I'm again troubled by his causal deployment of the same misleading rhetoric the left dishes up. Other IssuesOn other domestic issues, Ron Paul seems to get it mostly right. He agrees we need to secure the border (which should be a no-brainer for any politician, but isn't). And, as I mentioned above, we both agree the US needs to cut taxes and spending. (Yet he doesn't propose reforming the tax system, oddly.) Noticably, he says nothing here about standard conservative social issues: Where is he on abortion? How about embryonic stem cell research? Would he ban cloning? What's his view of marriage? (Is it merely a matter of private contract? With what limits?) Are we just supposed to believe he favors whatever view we'd like to imagine? SummaryRon Paul gets it fairly right fiscally. But he doesn't apparently think social policy is worth commenting upon -- even if only to elaborate it should fall to the states. (I'm just guessing.) Regarding free trade, he seems worried about agreements to reduce tarriffs on imports. (So he wants tarriffs, then? ) He fears highways. And regardless of whether I agree or disagree with his international policies (which were stunningly vague), I feel the few examples offered betray a frightening naivte -- and ignorance of US history and the Constitution, to boot. And, worse, he seems content to repeat some of the worst myths of the left, without subjecting them to serious scrutiny -- or perhaps he even believes them, for what might be the same reasons. Color me unimpressed. NAFTA is free trade in name only. Really? How so? It lowers and eventually removes barries and tarrifs on a wide variety of goods. If you're pointing to the environmental or labor sections, I'd agree those aren't entirely "free -- but, if that's the criticism, it's a argument for a broadening or strenghten NAFTA, not narrowing or eliminating it. Compliance is also expensive. I hate having to guess someone's argument from just a few words. What costs are you referring to? Instead of a 30 volume agreement, why not a 3 page policy? I think you could ask that about *any* contemporary bit of legislation -- not just NAFTA. Or one sentence: "People of the USA, feel free to trade with other folks of North America in any legal way you want, as much as you want." We don't need any legal help to do that. We can feel anything we want to. If you read the text, you'll find the agreement spells out, for example, which tarrifs the parties will reduce, by how much, and by when. Look, my boss could just tell me: "Do as much work as you wish, and we'll pay you some money." But when parties are giving things up, for an expected benefit, they tend to like to spell out just how much of what each will give up or do. That leads to detailed text, my friend. The idea of "you drop yours and we'll drop ours" is based on bad economics. We'd be better off dropping our trade barriers whether they drop theirs or not. That could be, but in the real world, politicians aren't all conservatives, and nor are the voters who elect them. How much noise do you hear about the "trade deficit", in which one nations sells us more than we buy? Voters don't like the idea of dropping trade barriers to a nation which keeps high barriers to entry. In other words, I don't think you could have approved an agreement whereby we remove all tarrifs from imports, but asked nobody else to do the same. If you think I'm wrong on this -- that people would have supported such a move -- feel free to say so. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on May 28, 2007 03:22 AM The issues: http://www.paulonpaper.com/
Posted by: JJ on May 28, 2007 03:24 AM Thanks for the link. (It might have been a smart move for Ron to put it on his campaign website "Issues" page, rather than making visitors guess about it's existence. I guess the "hyperlink" hasn't caught in all quarters yet.) I'll digest it when I get more time. Ummm: I'm entirely aware the "highway" has been covered in the media. (How could I said it had been "debunked" if I'd never even heard of it?) Also: are you aware that not everything you hear in the media is true? (It's true: even WND! (Who today implies China is deliberately trying to poison Americans.)) I've already shown you the debunking. You're more than welcomed to respond to that. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on May 28, 2007 03:27 AM Well, if Ron Paul's clueless about the "NAFTA Superhighway" myth, he's certainly not alone. I just expect more from an elected official (John Conyers notwithstanding) -- that's all. Silly me.
It's been disturbing (yet also somewhat comforting) to watch the left fall for urban legend after urban legend. But I've always known there are some among the right who can be just as careless or gullible. Apparently this myth seems to be attracting them and flushing them out. Again, readers, I'd point out that even if a Federal effert were afoot to build a Canada-to-Mexico highway (for which I see no evidence), that alleged road itself would in no way create a North American EU or change our laws, as Ron Paul seems to be running around implying. That's fantasyland stuff, friends. It doesn't even make logical sense: such things are accomplished by laws, or treaties (or military coups) -- not pavement. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on May 28, 2007 03:59 AM Why would I need to "explain it away"? It's covered and explained in the links I already gave you, if you would bother to read them -- or even the website at the link you just gave me. The KC Smartport is a private company which wants to attract more trade to Kansas City. (Shocking, I know.) It's not a Federal project, the roads it refers to already exist, and the article you just linked to talks more about railroads than roads -- in fact, the highlighted routes are existing railroad lines, not a proposed "Superhighway". (The picture of a dilapidated train trestle at the end should have been a big hint.) And the few legislative improvements it mentions are a simple and recent set of reductions (by the Mexican government!) in shipping costs.
Competition in shipping routes? C'mon, people, let's snap out of it here. At least read your own sources. This is getting embarassing. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on May 28, 2007 12:27 PM nafta super highway debunked? are you retarded or just..... well retarded? its hard to tell if you are a normal retard or a super one Posted by: retard hunter on May 28, 2007 12:33 PM Why am I starting to see a rather disturbing parallel between the kind of soft brains attracted to Quixtar, and all too many of those who seem drawn, like flies, to these kinds of conspiracy theories? Oooooh: he called me a "retard". Well, I guess that roundly refutes pretty much everything. These are the voters who I'm hoping will keep the Democrats out of power? Oh dear. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on May 28, 2007 12:58 PM Add your two cents...
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I'll address free trade only. NAFTA is free trade in name only. The agreement is quite huge and is expensive to manage. Compliance is also expensive. You can't force free trade, you can only allow free trade. Instead of a 30 volume agreement, why not a 3 page policy? Or one sentence: "People of the USA, feel free to trade with other folks of North America in any legal way you want, as much as you want."
The idea of "you drop yours and we'll drop ours" is based on bad economics. We'd be better off dropping our trade barriers whether they drop theirs or not.
Posted by: Dar on May 28, 2007 02:42 AM