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... Go directly to hell. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Jim Wallis is interesting. Today, he alleges that almost all Christians in the world disagree with US policy, particularly the Iraq war:
What's his source? I'd love to see that survey. He seems to think that the "leaders" who work with World Vision (an organization which has been drifting steadily leftward over the years) must represent the countries from which they originate. And even if he's right: is truth determined by a majority vote?
We know that if the US leaves, many more would be killed. We also know that time and time again, rather than serving as true peacekeepers, the UN has fled at the first sign of real conflict or danger. Handing Iraq over the UN or a similar multinational group would be no worse than leaving abruptly. And "regional negotiations" simply don't stop al Qaeda from blowing people up. It would be quite nice if Jim Wallis would address these arguments, rather than pretend they don't exist, as he does in the paragraph above. Instead, he implies the only possible explanation for people disagreeing with him is simply that they don't love God nearly as much as he does:
Right. It's our blind A number of his commenters are even more amusing. It turns out Christians who disagree with Jim's stance on the war are probably going to hell:
Salvation isn't based on faith in God. It's based on not being a "Neo-Con". That's not a far cry from what Wallis alleged, actually. The vast majority of Jews in the world did not believe Jesus to be the Christ. What did the 12 know that others didn't? I'm not sure what the connection to the articles is, but I'll be glad to answer. First of all, it wasn't just the 12. They were the closest followers of Jesus, but there were more. The book of Acts starts out by Peter "In those days Peter stood up among the brothers (the company of persons was in all about 120)..." (Acts 1:15) In fact, one of the original 12 apparently didn't believe it, since he turned Jesus over to the authorities, and then killed himself in remorse. The beginning of Acts, where I quoted, starts out with the replacement of the apostle from the group of believers, which, in short time, numbered in the thousands. However, to add to this, there are many places where the Bible itself answers why, much better than I could in any short summary, much less a blog comment. If you want to find the answers to your queston, the best thing is to find a Bible with footnotes, and just start digging into the Book of Acts, checking cross-references. It's a good place to start investigating your question. Posted by: Michael Zappe on September 14, 2007 10:57 AM You just never know where a discussion's going to go. I see a bit of disconnect above: the first point seems to be that it's odd for a Christian, having a tradition of following a leader (Jesus) who predicted that his true followers would be hated and unpopular (and who was himself), to be running a popularity contest as a proxy for truth. And certainly the first people to discover any new truth start out in the minority. To the second point: There is indeed considerable evidence (biblical and extra-biblical) suggesting Christianity was remained a popular Jewish movement for quite some time. More later, perhaps. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on September 14, 2007 12:11 PM Add your two cents...
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Without commenting on whether or not the war is correct, I would like to make one observation:
The vast majority of Jews in the world did not believe Jesus to be the Christ. What did the 12 know that others didn't?
Posted by: on September 14, 2007 10:13 AM