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Rick Moran: "Stories of Russian Atrocities in Georgia Mount: Where's the US Media?" Dude, you so don't understand. These atrocities aren't linked to Bush. Worse, they tend to sort of justify McCain's "hawk" posture. After some deserved praise of the initial reporting, Moran notes:
It goes like this: We "negotiate", while the bad guys kill and/or take other actions which help them gain their objectives. Then we talk so more, while they do some more. Then all parties eventually sign a meaningless document, we congratulate ourselves on our "historic achievement". Then they violate the document by gaining some more ground, and we try to "get them to the table" again. Repeat as needed. Pacifists and State Department "negotiation" fans are the close allies of guys like Putin. They may not think they are, but they're absolutely essential to encouraging his actions in the first place, and helping him achieve his goals. (And I'm a pacifist at heart too -- have always been -- but unlike my peers, I apparently learned to count the bodies and ask: "Why?") I've already been rebuked for implying we should aid Georgia militarily in their fighting (an "indirect" attack). Well, now what folks? Sanctions? How many months (read "countries") will it take before those have any effect? Would you approve of our current course of action if you lived in Gori? What would you have wanted? Mike! Yes! Truly! I deleted a sentence which contained a long historical list of such examples, including treaties with the USSR, the peace agreement with North Vietnam, Carter's weapons-development deal with North Korea, Yassir Arafat's many "peace accords", our current actions regarding Iran, our current (lack of) action regarding Darfur, etc. But I thought it would detract from the main point. So, think McCain is ready to fill the shoes of a Churchill? Well, I'm hoping he'll at least be good at defending our freedoms abroad, given that he seems a little unclear on recognizing them, much less defending them at home. And, indeed, he's been right on the surge, and has had, by far, the best position on this particular conflict so far. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on August 18, 2008 12:00 PM It is forty pages of people talking about his very issue. It has people from several countries and tends to be a little more accurate than the news you are getting. For example, the war started when the Georgians used rocket artillary on a city killing 1400 people. Something about them accusing the Russians of support the Sepratists. Of course, since it occured when the Russian government was out of session, with their fearless leader in China at the games, it seems to be more... planned. Just read the thread, okay? It gets more interesting when people start arguing over sovernity and Dutchess. Posted by: Samuel Skinner on August 24, 2008 11:07 PM Add your two cents...
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Pacifists and State Department "negotiation" fans are the close allies of guys like Putin. They may not think they are, but they're absolutely essential to encouraging his actions in the first place, and helping him achieve his goals.
The sad part is that it's not that hard to find a nice historical example — it is, in fact, trivial:
Neville Chamberlain
So, think McCain is ready to fill the shoes of a Churchill?
Posted by: Michael Zappe on August 18, 2008 11:38 AM