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What it is about antisemitism -- today usually couched as "anti-Israel-ism" which usually goes hand in hand with so many other derangements, and an apparently inability to do even the most basic research? Paul Craig Roberts was once apparently a normal conservative:
He is also a professor, and held various academic positions in esteemed colleges and universities. But these days, he's writes stuff like this which appears on illustrious websites like "InfoWars" (home of Alex Jones, founder of the "9/11 Truth" movement, and who today was seen in Denver imploring the crowd to kill Michelle Malkin). A few snippets:
A lot of people -- including myself -- think the media does a poor-to-awful job of covering issues of major importance. But we often disagree in the particulars. In this case...
... Paul Craig Roberts sees a Jewish conspiracy, where I would point to things like economic ignorance, and too much cheerleading for Obama.
"Ethnic cleansing" usually means removing or killing a disfavored group. In contrast, the "ethnic cleansing" in Jerusalem and Palestine, oddly, somehow seems to involve the exact opposite: "Jerusalem’s Palestinian growth rate has been high. Jerusalem’s Arab population is growing by 3 percent a year. In contrast, Jerusalem’s Jewish population is growing by a little over 1 percent a year... After the 1967 war, Jerusalem’s population was 74 percent Jewish and 26 percent Arab. 40 years later, in 2007, Jerusalem’s population is 66 percent Jewish and 34 percent Arab." And: "The Palestinian territories have one of the fastest growing populations in the world, with numbers surging 30% in the past decade..." If that's "ethnic cleansing" it's the strangest example of it I've ever encountered.
First, if Israel values the US as an ally, then why attack a warship apparently sent out to support them? Second, why does PCR have to go back over 40 years to find his "smoking gun"? Third, contrary to his assertion "there never has been a congressional investigation", Wikipedia lists seven official US investigations, two of which were done by Congress. Fourth, it's rather astounding to see him morally equate an apparent friendly-fire incident during wartime allies (and he gives no evidence to the contrary) with a deliberate, premeditated attack during peacetime. (Simpleton that I am.) And regarding Georgia, Putin is a truth-teller; everyone who disagrees with Putin's official line is lying:
Well if the Kremlin says it, it must be so! No doubt Paul Craig Roberts was equally trusting of Russia press releases during his tenure under Reagan? The US media can't be trusted, but Vladimir Putin speaks unvarnished truth! To the contrary, Michael Totten has been on the ground in Georgia, and has turned up considerable evidence that (shock! amazement!) Russia simply lied: "The South Ossetian militia started it on August 6 when its fighters fired on Georgian peacekeepers and Georgian villages... At the same time, the Russian military sent its invasion force bearing down on Georgia from the north side of the Caucasus Mountains... This happened before Saakashvili sent additional troops to South Ossetia and allegedly started the war." Furthermore, most Georgia has most their military (and all their elite divisions) in Iraq helping the US -- a rather odd military posture for a tiny nation allegedly desiring a premeditated war with a far greater military power. (Who, oddly, just happened to have an overwhelming force amassed at the border at that moment. Just sightseeing, I suspect.) Most the mainstream media took a "well, both sides are at fault" stance. Yet Roberts unabashedly sides with Putin -- demanding Putin go ever further and directly depose and kill "Mikheil Saakashvili, the American puppet `president' of Georgia" (note his use of scare quotes) -- because Georgia is corrupt by dint of being associated with the United States of America.
Saddam Hussein murdered millions, and tortured millions more. He created and filled "children's prisons" with the offspring of those he wanted to control. He invaded two of his neighbors, and threatened to attack Saudi Arabia. He dropped missiles on Israel, and attempted to assassinate a sitting US president. What has Saakashvili done which is comparable to or worse than that? The worst allegation Roberts' can come up with is that he might have accepted some campaign money from the US Congress. Yes, that is worse than anything Saddam Hussein ever did, apparently. And we see Paul Craig Roberts cheering for Russia's invasion of another nation, and demanding that they hang her freely-elected leader -- but it is others who are the warmongers???
Yeah, that Putin guy is a regular pussycat compared to Saakashvili, who is currently meekly pleading with an apparently unconcerned world for help. But in not Paul Craig Roberts' universe. No, in that universe, the US media is just begging us to go to war with Russia. The bits of his article I've omitted so far are just dripping with contempt for ordinary Americans (including Christians) ...
Yeah, every time I go to church (which is apparently in synch with CNN!) I hear a discussion of geopolitical situation around the Black Sea. It just sounds like a discussion of the Book of Romans, and the importance of living with integrity, but really, its a coded set of subliminal signals which turn parishioners into slavering, racist warmongers. The November election is perhaps the last chance to avoid nuclear war. But the opportunity might already have been missed. The Republicans have chosen as their candidate one of the most ignorant warmongers alive. The Democrats’ choice was between one of the most divisive women in America and a man of mixed race with a funny name. Considering American’s taste for war, the Democratic candidate could fail to defeat the GOP war candidate. Russians and Putin are cheering the attack on Georgia. In contrast, Americans sat around watching the Olympics and (now) the DNC convention. Bush and Rice have signed an utterly toothless ceasefire agreement which is being broken at the very moment, while the administration shows no signs of life on this issue, and is ardently insisting we're not helping Georgia militarily at all. But that's my reality -- not Paul Craig Roberts'. And in his reality, opposition to Obama can only be explained by American racism -- even though the numbers are the same as for Kerry, who was white but shared a similar voting record.
("Real issues" being, of course, "the Israeli Lobby". No racism here, right Paul?)
Why, YES, all around me my associates are blaming Putin every day for their problems. (Haha! Just joking. My associates are blaming "the rich" (despite their being upper-class) "corporations" (despite their own corporatism) and the "Christian right" for their problems -- and demanding "change.") I'm one of the few people I know who seem troubled by Russia annexing Georgia -- which, I know, is odd that I should care about at all, apparently. (Who CARES if Russia annexes a few small nations, really? There's no legitimate reason at all that a US citizen should be troubled by such a development.)
And he didn't even draw a line connecting the "Israel Lobby" and the "nuclear war" we're now going to have because we are too racist to elect Obama. He just seems to haphazardly toss the spectre of Jewish control into the narrative, as though his readers will just understand it somehow all relates: There's an "ethnic cleansing" in Jerusalem ... forty years ago there was a wartime incident .... and somehow that, uh... leads to nuclear war with Russia over Georgia! (I get the impression he could just as easily work "the Israel Lobby", somehow, into a complaint about the quality of McDonald's burgers.) Sadly, this probably isn't a form of mental illness, because we've seen it before (in Europe) and we're seeing it among many, many others. Ordinary people are reading this material -- or some of the same memes, more dilute -- and buying it. People like Ron Paul and my co-workers would undoubtedly agree with a number of statements, even if they would object to others. No conclusion, no neat moral lesson here, other than a general concern things are getting weird, and a case study of how a fixation on "the Israel Lobby" seems to go hand-in-hand with America-hatred, reflexively siding with guys like Putin, and living in a bizarre alternate reality which seems wholly unsupported by any facts I can discover. "No conclusion, no neat moral lesson here, other than a general concern things are getting weird, and a case study of how a fixation on "the Israel Lobby" seems to go hand-in-hand with America-hatred, reflexively siding with guys like Putin, and living in a bizarre alternate reality which seems wholly unsupported by any facts I can discover." sounds to me like someone is in denial. Posted by: rhini@email.com on August 27, 2008 02:30 PM rhini@email.com - Tim isn't apathetic. Politically apathetic people don't have regular blogs, for starters. But there's better evidence if you want to dig any deeper into his archives. As for 'denial,' if you disagree with someone... well, go and make an argument. Start with Georgia. I'd love to learn if you have any facts to put forward that demonstrate Tim's "denial." Right now you have an assertion, and not much else. Posted by: Ryan W. on August 27, 2008 04:20 PM Israelis want to rule the world? They're doing a lousy job at it -- their country is about 9 miles wide at its narrowest point (just a few minutes drive by car) and they seem to incessantly hope for peace by giving up land: oil-rich Sinai, control over Lebanon, the Gaza strip, offered to give up about 95% of everything Arafat demanded... Rule the world? They barely control their own borders! It's bizarre to see so many so deeply fixated on a tiny little nation (a democracy, at that) about the size of New Jersey! The nations all around this tiny state embrace an ideology which nakedly and openly proclaims that IT must dominate the world by any means available, and PCR overlooks that, and instead imagines the secret, invisible cabal of Jewish Bankers are still bent on world control? Speaking of which, interested to see whence our, um, visitor (to put it nicely) arrived, I found yet another cute little piece by Paul Craig Roberts, seemingly even more addled than the last. Dig this fun assertion:
Ukrainians love their country and don't want to find themselves back into Russia's "loving" embrace again? (After Putin apparently attempted to assassinate their last president, who has a disfigured face to show for it?) Geez! How "sick" can you get! What's wrong with those people??? Who wouldn't love being a vassal state of Russia? Why, I'm sure PCR himself is just dying to emigrate to Russia right now! (Being, I'm sure, rather free of any "sick nationalism" concerning his own nation.) Love the justification there: Russia has no choice but to attack these little nations, because otherwise Russia would "absorbed" (how, exactly? PCR doesn't have to provide cogent arguments) into the (dreaded) "American Empire".
Is Putin a dangerous character? No, he's nothing compared to ... (drum roll please)... Bill Kristol! (The very face of evil itself! "Humanity has no greater enemy"!) I'd be beside myself laughing at the absurdity of it wasn't for the sobering thought that these kinds of people often have a very nasty fascistic streak. Alex Jones screams unceasingly for a rather excitable crowd to "kill Michelle Malkin" -- who is standing right in front of him. Paul Craig Roberts demands that Putin depose and hang the President of Georgia. And thinks Russia now has no choice but to attack Ukraine, given their "sick patriotism." All entirely justified. And my darling little visitor above seems to think committing sacrilege against religious Jews (oh, excuse me, Israelis -- never mind that the Israeli public is largely secular) must help in some way. It's always so easy, isn't it? All we have to do is "remove" (read: murder) a tiny group of people who (we are told) are running the world, and then all will be peace, love, happiness, flowers, and care bears. Putin's not an aggressor; Hamas is not an aggressor; Saddam did what he had to do... who can blame (or even think badly) of any of them, given the tremendous evil they faced in the form of... Bill Kristol. (Oh, okay: and Paul Wolfowitz. And any other conservative who has a Jewish-sounding last name.) *Shudder* I'd love to say my concern about this trend is exaggerated. As I wrote before, if we were talking about just one person (Paul Craig Roberts himself, for example) I'd think he was simply off his meds -- on a par with the kind of person who is convinced the dog next door is giving him instructions. But he's not alone. Ron Paul spouts the same stuff. Lew Rockwell and the gollum-like denizens of his site. And non-trivial sectors of the left and Europe, apparently -- and let's not forget the Islamic world. It seems antisemites pop out of the woodwork each time the subject is raised. Antisemitism is truly the great unifier, ain't it? Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on August 28, 2008 12:43 AM Add your two cents...
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Oh poor,poor isralies everybody stop
picking on them. they only want to rule
the world with thier brand of zionist hegemony,
Start wars and use the ignorant sheeple goyim to
do thier bidding. just stop it stop it.
shaloom shalomy shalam, just feed'm some ham,
use thier talMUD as s*** paper
Posted by: on August 27, 2008 02:25 PM