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Late last year (2008), my gal started and I both started to notice that various milk brands here in Denver were starting to taste, for lack of a better word, disgusting. At first, she noticed in Archer Farms I bought from Target. Then she noticed that King Sooper (Kroger's) store brand started to have it. She switched to Viva (which didn't have it), and I switched to Horizon (organic). Then even Horizon started to taste that way also, and now, finally, she's reporting that Viva also tastes disgusting. It is, quite frankly, a strong and unpleasant taste, which is a bit like rotten milk, but with a sort of sour plastic or chemical overtone. It leaves a rather nasty aftertaste behind. If it were just me, I'd would write it off to not being used to the milk here, but she's tasting it too, and it's VERY pronounced. (I can even smell it from the carton.) I can use the milk for cooking, but I have no desire to drink it or use it on cereal. It even overwhelms double-chocolate muffins. Doing a bit of poking around, I couldn't find any news about why this might be happening. (Was it some change in milk processing techniques?) I discovered this thread, where a few other people were experiencing what sounds like the same thing. These complaints were written about the same time we started to notice something was amiss:
I wouldn't describe it as being like "rice" (Rice Krispies are quite delicious, actually) but this comment hits the nail on the head:
I should add that I'm not on any medications, nor is my girlfriend -- we both notice its presence and absence in the same milk samples when we compare notes. The milk isn't sour (I even just did this experiment to confirm) -- the taste is there even when we just get it home from the store, and it doesn't change much over time. It's been winter for most the time we've noticed this, and I live less than five minutes from the store -- so it's not going bad in the trunk. I don't know what's going on, but it's enough to make me want to never drink milk again. Is anyone else out there noticing it? Any theories or other reports? For what it's worth, the milk here in Florida still tastes fine. My friends who have their own cow say that the flavor of milk varies depending on what the cows have been eating, but big milk producers mix huge batches together so no one notices the variation. Unfortunately, in our world of factory farming, I'd be paranoid enough to suspect something less harmless than a little garlic amongst the fodder. Posted by: SursumCorda on May 18, 2009 03:15 AM I don't know that I've noticed a different taste, I don't drink milk as much as I used to either. Being that I haven't been getting regular sleep lately, I assume that the milk has gone bad if it tastes bad, without really looking into it. I have to say, that being said, that I've been having some trouble with milk going bad before the expiration lately. Being that my son drinks a lot of milk I'd be interested to know what you find out, if you find out anything. Things I would think of is possibly the use of different materials to make the containers (for example a good percentage of the melomine found in many foods is actually from the packaging). Also possibly a different diet for the cows. It sounds industry wide. Posted by: Michelle on May 18, 2009 09:00 PM This happened to me the first time this week! I usually buy Horizon organic, but will pick up the other organic brand if it's on sale. It was watery and did have a nasty ricey taste and a horrible aftertaste right from the get-go. The kids assumed it had gone bad too. First, they came for the real tomatoes, but I wasn't a tomato lover, so I said nothing... Noooooo, not the milk!!!!!! Posted by: Tracey on May 19, 2009 05:03 AM Tim - Do you happen to have a farmers market near you? They sometimes have higher quality dairy products there, since they're often on a first name basis with their cows. They tend to fill niche markets and cater to those following various health trends. And they would also be most likely to have some insight into your quandry. Posted by: Ryan W. on May 19, 2009 07:05 AM I have a gallon (in plastic) of Horizon 1% and it tastes good. I just bought a half gallon of skim and it tastes horrible. It has that weird chemical "rice" taste that people mentioned. I've had Horizon milk before that had the "green onion" taste. That was tolerable, but this new taste is just too overwhelming and terrible. It tastes like spoiled rice or something. Posted by: Justin on June 16, 2009 12:13 PM I bought two half gallons and just opened the other one. Sure enough, it has the horrible smell. I didn't bother tasting it. I'm taking them back. (Kroger, Ohio) Posted by: Justin on June 16, 2009 12:24 PM I have noticed this for the past maybe 4 months or so. It started out being every two or three containers of milk I would buy and now it is almost every time. I just purchased one yesterday after taking a break for a while and it tasted horrible. I'm really glad I found this post, because I was starting to feel really crazy! I have no idea what this could be. I'm not taking any medications that would cause a change in tastebuds either. I'm in California. Posted by: Marjorie on July 6, 2009 04:52 PM Just for the record, we've been able to find decent-tasting milk again here in Denver. Seems to come and go. My current concern is that it might be indicative of something unhealthy getting into the mix. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on July 7, 2009 11:03 AM I live in Denver too -- and cannot seem to get good milk. I usually buy Horizon and sometimes Whole foods 365 brand. It frequently tastes strange - or spoiled when I open the cartons. I was wondering about the carton material because the last two times I got Horizon the carton was leaking on the bottom and the strength of the actual carton seems weaker. Hmmm. I'm thinking of going back to Royal Crest. Posted by: Nancy on July 8, 2009 04:25 PM I live in NY city and I've had the same problem with the milk tasting horrible. I would say it has been for the last two years. Can't say how many gallons of milk I had to pour down the drain. Finally I stayed away from plastic containers and only buy milk in cartons. I can now drink milk again. I don't understand how this milk is being sold and consumed when it taste so bad. I asked my son to pick up milk for me yesterday and YES he brought me a plastic container of milk. I thought it may have changed after two years and tried it...it was absolutely disgusting! This is what prompted me to check the internet and see if anyone else was having a problem with milk tasting awful. Posted by: Matt on July 16, 2009 09:42 AM I don't understand how this milk is being sold and consumed when it taste so bad Yes, that was our reaction too, exactly. I also decided to check the Internet, and noticed only a few small notes about the problem, yet it seemed to be (from our samples of other stores) fairly widespread. So I thought I'd put this out there to see if others were encountering the same thing. Apparently, quite a few are. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on July 16, 2009 11:38 AM Ive tasted this taste you all have encountered. I have stayed with the same HyVee brand and its always a hit and miss. Lately ive bought good milk but the last two gallons bought were both unbearable. Both went down the drain. Thats also a horrible feeling. I dont think its brand specific or area specific. I live in South Dakota and LOVE milk but cant drink the bad stuff. I thought it was hormones but its probably what these milk cows are eating or how the milk is treated in the process along the line somewhere.Wishing for an answer. Posted by: Todd on July 18, 2009 02:21 PM My wife and I just experienced this for the first time here in upstate SC. We just made the switch to organic and bought a half gallon of Horizon 2%. The first carton we used entirely for cooking, and did not notice a problem. But then we bought a second caron and my wife poured it over cereal. It was the worst thing I have ever tasted. Like some nightmare medicine that leaves a bad aftertaste. Expiration date has plenty of time, and we just opened it. We are taking it back and trying something else! Posted by: Andy on July 25, 2009 07:58 AM OMG! This has all the hallmarks of a conspiracy. I am truly frightened. Only yesterday I bought a gallon of 2% from Target, not my usual source for milk. As I usually do, I mixed in a generous amount of Hershey's chocolate syrup. The milk had a powerful "soapy" chemical taste. I thought perhaps my dishwasher had malfunctioned and left my plastic cup soapy. I tired a new clean glass. Even without the chocoalte syrup, it was still powerfully soapy. Something ain't right here. I'm never buying Target milk again. I usually buy Dean's or my local grocery store (Kohl's) brand, and have never had this problem. Posted by: Barry on July 25, 2009 10:27 PM FYI, found this page on milk flavor factors. Doesn't mention the "ricey" taste specifically, but does mention that rancid milk will taste "soapy" and astringent. http://www.farminfo.org/dairy/flavor-m.htm Also, there is another thread I found in which others have experienced the same thing. http://community.tasteofhome.com/forums/t/690251.aspx One poster theorizes this might be oxidation from clear containers. I am still concerned/annoyed enough about this that I searched out and found a dairy forum online. I've posed the question to them and linked them here. Hopefully we'll get some response! Posted by: Tracey on July 25, 2009 11:06 PM I googled this b/c i've noticed it for a few years. i came to this thread. i think the taste is a chemical taste, kind of like acitone (nail polish remover or alcohol). We only drink organic milk - that's where I smell and taste it. Posted by: Jen on August 18, 2009 02:02 PM I am in NC and have also noticed this taste for about two years. We drink organic milk, and I have noticed it is worse in skim, but right now we have a container of Full Circle 1% that tastes bad. It is in a plastic, but not clear container. Full Circle seems to be the worst brand,but I have tasted it in Horizon and Harris Teeter brands. The only one I haven't had a problem with is Organic Valley, which is of course the most expensive. I believe this brand is one of the only true organic, not "factory farm organic", milks. Scary. Posted by: Laura on August 22, 2009 09:45 AM A couple of webpages of interest, describing causes of off flavors in milk and how to prevent them. Could the "ricey" taste be what they are describing as "malty," or "grapenuts" taste? Yuck. http://www.farminfo.org/dairy/flavor-m.htm http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:hD0dCi_-PpkJ:www.das.psu.edu/research-extension/dairy/pdf/milkflavor.pdf+milk+oxidation+flavor&hl=en&gl=us Posted by: Laura on August 22, 2009 10:05 AM I just returned from a school at Lackland Air Force Base and the 2% milk there tasted better than any whole milk I have had in years. It had a perfect taste. I have missed this for a long time. I thought my sense of taste had changed. The problem is the milk we get. I need to know the low down on that milk. Posted by: Charles on August 25, 2009 07:19 PM I'm so glad to find this thread. I call it "the chemical". I've complained about it for 10 years now. At first, it was just Viva milk in Salt Lake City. Now, after moving 4 different times, I am always scared when we go to the grocery store for the first time to see if the milk has "the chemical". We're in Boston now, and the Market Basket and Stop 'n Shop milk is delicious. The Target milk? BLAH. My wife can taste it now that I pointed it out, and one of my kids can tell also. The others don't seem to notice much. It's a bitter taste and leaves a bad aftertaste. It's like a chemical or maybe plastic. I cannot believe people buy the milk. I can't drink it or eat cereal in it. Haven't had a brand of milk "switch" to having the chemical yet. Posted by: Ryan on August 29, 2009 08:03 PM I just poured a bowl of cereal with Organic Valley Skim Milk and spit my first bite out in the sink. I then smelled the milk .. not sour, but there was a definite chemical-like odor. Tasted the same way it smelled. Looks like the mystery milk has made it's way to Brooklyn too. Posted by: Shannon on September 7, 2009 10:29 PM I'm a big milk drinker (2%), and just moved from NH to IN. Back in NH, the milk was good from Hannafords, Shaws, Oakhurst, and smileys, I didn't care for marketbasket, but it was bearable. Here in IN, the first milk i tried was from Payless, I didn't like it at all, next was Marshes; which was better, maybe on par with marketbasket. Then I tried some orgnanic milk that was twice as expensive, but not much improvement. Now I just tried a glass of payless again and it's terrible! I can't even finish the glass! What is going on? Why is the milk so different? Posted by: Graham on September 8, 2009 12:54 PM I'm in Wisconsin and have noticed the problem for several years. It's a bad chemical taste. I've noticed it in every brand and every variation (whole, 2%, 1%, and skim). I don't buy cartons, so I'm not sure about those. The strange thing is how it comes and goes. I just bought a gallon of skim from a convenience store that operates their own dairy, and it had the bad taste. A friend of mine use to drive a milk truck and told me that a few years back they changed the way they clean and disinfect the tanks. I wonder if that could have something to do with it. Someone in the dairy industry knows what is causing this. I plan on writing some letters to try to get to the bottom of this. Posted by: Rob on September 10, 2009 09:03 AM We live in Savannah, Georgia and have noticed the milk starting to taste sour this summer. We thought it might be a bad batch, or a particular supplier. We tried it from several different stores. The bad taste is common to all our local store brands and the high end labels too. My kids don't want to drink it most of the time, and I don't push it. We're going to try organic next. It's very frustrating, and a little scary. I hate to think of what might be causing it. Please keep posting what you learn about this topic. Bad milk is just un-American! Posted by: Triece on September 17, 2009 09:13 PM Glad to have found this thread - I was beginning to think it was just me. Live in Rocaway Beach, NY and summer home in Saratoga Springs, NY - - the milk in both cities has been tasting rotten for the past 7 - 8 months. Not sour, but tastes like it had been heated and then re-chilled. Been buying from different stores, different brands, all varieties, all types of packaging. The only good-tasting milk I've purchased lately was Stewart's brand (Saratoga) in the cardboard half-gallon container. What's going on? Is the milk not being kept cold enough? The fact that this problem is so widespread is bad news. Hopefully the dairy industry will take notice and make corrections, or at least let us know what is causing this situation, and if we should expect it to continue. Posted by: Jay on September 19, 2009 04:41 PM This happened to me a week or so ago. I bought a gallon of Horizon Organic whole milk, and it tasted so badly of plastic that I brought it back to the store. The replacement gallon was fine. Posted by: Caitlin on September 23, 2009 06:48 AM I'm in Roanoke, VA. I got some Horizon 2% at Kroger(all Horizon is usually good) but I experienced the strong medicine-like/plastic taste this evening. I don't think it was "green onion" in the milk because I had some of those for supper and they tasted good. My wife said she thought it had a strong medicine taste to it well before the date on the carton and easily within the 7 day use requirement. Disgusting!!! Posted by: Steve Alvis on September 28, 2009 06:25 PM We live in ND and have been noticing the same problem for the last couple of years. We have tried Target organic, Horizon, Organic Valley and some non organic brands. Seems to come and go. The last last 2 gals we bought we Organic Valley. The first one was fine the next one tasted like a band-aid. It had a very strong chemical odor and taste. The milk was from different batches with diff exp dates. I think I am giving up on milk for now. Posted by: Heather on October 17, 2009 09:02 AM I started noticing this first about a year or year and one half ago. First noticed it in Horizon organic then other brands. Regular milk does not seem to be effected like the organics. Also noticed the ultra-pasteurized is much worse. Compare for example the Horizon brand organic ultra-pasteurized vs regular pasteurized and you will notice the taste is only in the ultra. The taste and/or odor is not normal. Some say chemical or plastic some describe it as band aid taste or bitterness. It is hard to place but it is there. Something is definitely wrong and the milk producers are hiding it. I have contacted several companies and though they act concerned they have no answers. The origination of this taste must be in the packaging, processing, or care of the animals and should be easy to isolate. The main culprit as stated above seems to be ultra-pasteurized. UHT processed milk is treated at a higher heat for a shorter time period. Higher heat of course denatures the proteins to a greater extent. Also heat will bring out volatile compounds and change the flavor other constituents such as the fatty acids. So it could be as simple as overheated milk with a different flavor. Posted by: Ethan on October 17, 2009 10:56 AM I've tasted this since 2008 in Target brand milk, but not milk from the grocery store. The milk I got this week doesn't expire for another two weeks, and it is less than 2 miles from Target to my home, so it didn't go bad in the car. Posted by: Heather on October 25, 2009 12:53 PM I've tasted this flavor all my life in Ohio supermarket skim milk: Acme, Giant Eagle, IGA, Great Value, Fishers etc. For this reason I only drank 1% or 2%. The "chemical-past-milk" flavor was masked somewhat in the higher fat content milk, until recently. The last couple Acme 2% gallons that I have purchased had the taste. It is scary to think about what may have changed in our milk. Also, who knows what our milk will taste like if the dairy processors get their way regarding MPCs. The following URL is a story on that subject. Posted by: Tyler on October 26, 2009 01:40 PM I thought I was going crazy as well. So glad I found this site I love milk...er loved milk but can not drink it anymore I have tried every brand from every store here and all have a "nutty" or spoiled taste. Cant put my finger on it but its not the milk I grew up on. I would pay double for my milk if it would just taste right. I read that link about the price of milk so low its driving farmers out of the business, maybe this is a way the dairy farmers can increase the profits or maybe its a plan to get people to pay more for higher quality milk which I will do now. Please get me a good milk! Posted by: Josh on October 31, 2009 11:06 AM Hi, I also have found Milk with the bad after taste. I've noticed this for at least five years. It is a random thing with me. I'm 53 and still drink a lot of milk, usually 1% or 1/2% if the store has it.(Richmond,Va and now Raleigh,NC) We all love the cold crisp taste of milk, esp with something like cakes ect. When I get one of these awful tasting gallons of milk I return it and exchange for another. I describe it as chalky but I think we're all talking about the same thing. I figured it was too many hormones but someone described about the cleaning of the tank trucks and a new cleaning solutions. That makes sense and enought people haven't complained for the industry to make changes. I think regarding the processing of our foods there are a lot of things we would rather not know about...but can taste this one.. I'm glad I found this page. Regards Drew Posted by: Drew on November 3, 2009 06:52 AM Hi, I don't drink milk except in tea or coffee. but my son does & he has complained about the taste lately. I think that either they are not rinsing out the machines properly after they have cleaned them, which would leave cleaning product residue in the batches of milk or the plastic containers or cartons could be the problem. Just about everyone is recycling now & maybe the chemicals used to recycle these materials are leaching out into products. Remember recycling is fairly new & who knows what chemicals are used for this. Look at the baby bottles that were out for years with dangerous chemicals in them & how long it took for them to be recalled. There are also different types of plastic out there (mostly clear) type 1 I think, that can't be reused because chemicals leach out. There should be a triangle on the bottom of plastic containers telling you which # it is. There are too many people complaining about the milk taste for it to be everyone's imagination. Someone needs to get to the bottom of this before people get sick from who knows what.This bad taste will result in less people buying milk, sales will go down, do they really want that? Posted by: John on November 8, 2009 03:32 AM I won't buy milk in plastic jugs. I think the foul taste may come from a "mould release" agent (helps get the parts of the jug out of the mould). It is certainly not a normal milk flavor. I love the milk I get in the paper cartons. Posted by: Norm on November 11, 2009 09:35 AM The other link says it's because of "oxidation" from light. Any truth to this? My wife and 2 kids both notice it when we get a gallon of this nasty milk. All we can do is use it for instant oatmeal or cooking when we get one of these. It's horrible and it's bothering me to no end. I want to know how I can get back my perfect skim milk. We are up to about 1 of every 3 gallons purchased tasting this way. Posted by: on November 11, 2009 07:28 PM The other link says it's because of "oxidation" from light. Any truth to this? If the problem was oxidation, I'd think that it might have a similar taste to powdered milk. Does it? Posted by: Ryan W. on November 11, 2009 11:20 PM I only notice that horrible after taste in the milk packaged in plastic. I don't notice it in cartons. Posted by: Candy Dusek on November 20, 2009 10:20 AM The problem wouldn't be hormone or antibiotics. FYI milk and dairy products are the most highly regulated foods and there is an insane amount of testing done on the milk from the farm all the way to your table. You would all be surprised. However, what a cow eats plays a huge role in how the milk tastes and also what season it is afffects the milk as well. MIlk will taste different from region to region and form farm to farm just because thats the way it is. THe flavor everyone is describing is likely oxidation of the milk. Milk is exremely susceptible to oxidation and becase it is stored in translucent bottles or jugs for the most part in a lighted dairy case at the grocery store this can cause oxidation. Also temperature fluctuations of taking it out of the friding, riding aroudn in your cart at the store, etc can cause the flavor to change. THe taste of powdered milk is not from oxidation it is from the high heat treatment that the milk undergoes to get dried, similar to how UHT or shelf stable fluid milk tastes. Posted by: Kelly on November 22, 2009 02:46 PM Kelly - Interesting. I guess according to this the reason that the oxidation which occurs in skim milk is not the cause is that the fat is removed from skim milk and it's the oxidized fat which causes the problems, even in very small amounts such as with skim milk. The taste of powdered milk is not from oxidation it is from the high heat treatment that the milk undergoes to get dried, similar to how UHT or shelf stable fluid milk tastes. You're saying that heat does something else besides just oxidize the constituents? I'm curious what. Posted by: Ryan W. on November 22, 2009 10:58 PM Reread the above - the first paragraph was badly written. To rephrase; You're right that fat oxidation can cause bad flavors. This happens even in skim milk, since small amouts of fat can remain in skim milk, and the bad-tasting chemicals have an effect even in parts per million. (Light may be one source of oxidation/bad taste, but others are addressed in the linked article.) Posted by: Ryan W. on November 23, 2009 01:21 PM I have mainly noticed it in Walmart milk and half and half. Is it some type of preservative so that it can be shipped for a long time? Other local brands don't seem to be affected. Posted by: Jess M on November 24, 2009 09:23 AM We just looked this up after having noticed the awful taste in store-bought milk yet again in the new container I just purchased. We're in PA- I just threw out the last milk I purchased, wondering what was wrong with it. Luckily, we can still purchase raw milk here, and that is what we had been doing for a while. Boy is it delicious!!! We thought maybe we were just used to the really good milk, but have ruled that out since we had occasionally purchased store milk when we would run out of the real stuff. Even the powdered milk I have for "emergencies" is better than this stuff!!! I would love answers! For now, no more store milk. Posted by: Rebecca on November 26, 2009 11:45 PM I buy organic milk in the large plastic cartons at trader joes, and it seems great every time. I've tried Horizon several times when I can't get to Joes, and every time it tastes disgusting. Posted by: Chris Hobson on November 27, 2009 11:01 AM Yes. I have noticed a rapid decline here in Utah over the last few months. Target has that horrible chemical aftertaste about half or three quarters of the time. Kroger's has it nearly all the time now. Even Kirkland (from Costco) has started selling the garbage. I used to think that I could be safe with Wal-Mart milk. Sadly, it is looking about 50/50 there as well. The only reliable brand here in Utah is Winder milk. Of course, it costs more per ounce than diamonds (only slight exaggeration), so I cannot switch over to that. Posted by: Randy on December 1, 2009 04:18 PM I've noticed that Meijer 2% has a strong 'thick' taste. I can't put my finger on what the flavor is, but it is consistant over at least a year. Not quite bad, but really different than the Kroger 2% I normally buy. Has anyone else tasted this at Meijer? Posted by: Kevin on December 15, 2009 05:17 PM Target's milk has a very strange taste. I cannot quite describe other than to say that is not good. Posted by: on December 16, 2009 10:42 PM I just sent this message to Tuscan Dairy Farms from here in NYC: "This milk in a paper carton has a strong plastic taste. I have avoided buying milk in plastic containers for years because of the plastic taste. Your brand always had a superior taste, I hope you are not plastic coating the insides of paper cartons now, I won't be able to buy them." Posted by: George on December 19, 2009 11:18 AM I live near Vancouver British Columbia. Our milk has been tasting aweful for a few years now. Occasionally we get a jug that's good but it seems that at least half the milk we buy these days has that god aweful chemical after taste. I've heard it is a new chlorination method that permits the use of milk that would normally be discarded but this may just be a rumour. One thing for certain they've done something that has ruined the taste of milk and if it's chemical additives people have the right to know. Posted by: Murray on December 20, 2009 08:56 PM I live in Australia and my brother and I have noticed this strange taste and smell phenomenon for more than 20 years. It sort of tastes off like a very concentrated over the top milky flavour. We only drink full cream regular milk. It only used to happen very occasionally at a particular time of year but we both would not drink it either straight, or in tea or coffee because the flavour was so pronounced. We have discovered over time that it seems to be more common in cheaper brands of milk. Now I will only buy one brand (which is the most expensive) and this brand has only suffered from the taste/smell thing a couple of times. I would rather pay for a reliable source of milk than throw out litre after litre. We heard a theory years ago that it was caused by the cows eating clover. Recently we heard it may have been due to fillers the milk companies add to the milk. I find it interesting that it happens in other countries and seems to be far more common than I had imagined. Posted by: Lissa on December 20, 2009 09:40 PM I've done a slight amount of searching and found a study on the Journal of Dairy Science (sounds like a lively lot, right?) about the effect of cattle ethanol consumption on milk flavor. (Cows may be ingesting ethanol from fermented feed.) http://jds.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/82/2/420 In short, ethanol in feed made the milk taste bad ("the organoleptic quality decreased" - where organoleptic quality means flavor quality) So here are some of the observations on the bad milk flavor, and then how these correlate with ethanol in feed affecting flavor: Given bad milk flavor has been occurring for the last 20 years (according to some comments here), I think alcohol-eating cows are a reasonable explanation (and hopefully a bit consoling to those worried about their delicious milk). I wouldn't say this is conclusively why your milk is tasting weird, but as they noted minute quantities of rocket fuel in California milk, I think it's more plausible than a nation-wide contamination of some horrible chemical that'll be sterilizing your kids. At the very least, I think this points to something the cows are eating. Personally, I'm going to try buying whatever the higher quality brands are, as taking that first sip of nasty milk is the bane of my dietary existence at the moment. A note on acetone(because it sounds like something nasty you wouldn't want in your milk): concentrations were on the order of 0.01 millimole / liter, or on the order of less than 1 ppm - well below noticeable health effects [ingesting 20 grams a day (WAAAAY higher than anything you'd get from milk) caused no health effects in a study]. However breathing acetone vapor concentrations around 250ppm for a few hours can cause some effect... so don't do that. Posted by: KG on January 2, 2010 09:44 PM Wow! I am glad that my family isn't the only one noticing this. We used to live in upstate NY then moved to Wisconsin and now Minnesota, and we thought this icky taste had to do with just the mid-west milk. It IS horrible...especially the skim milk. It has nothing to do with going "bad" as I will buy a brand new gallon and open it and the taste will be just yucky. At first I thought that it might have to do with what the cows were eating (seasonally) but it happens at random times throughout the year. We also have tried all the brands available and it is SO hit or miss. I usually shop at Hyvee or Walmart. I never would have thought that so many people would be worrying about this topic also! I will be sure to show my husband this website, as he is the one who is the most disturbed by it (we are a big milk drinking family). I don't know how many gallons of milk get dumped, but I would recommend that the milk companies figure something out before people stop buying it altogether!! The farmers have enough troubles without these problems adding to it, right?? Posted by: Amy G on January 4, 2010 08:21 AM in the last 2 months or so, the milk i buy tastes fine for a few days...then ICK! before the expiration date, it starts smelling and tasting bad. not exactly sour, but nasty. i've been throwing away half the carton. what happened? i've never had this problem before and i'm a lifetime milk drinker. so far, the only milk that seems to hold up is "swiss". i buy fat free milk, mostly from albersons. however, i've also bought it from ralphs with the same nasty taste. what do we do???? Posted by: Mary on January 5, 2010 08:24 AM The milk in Mississippi has a bad taste, also we have bought butter from Schnucks that was molding. Posted by: Russ on January 15, 2010 08:02 AM I'm in sonoma county CA and my gf's family loves Lucern milk and I cannot stand it. It has the onion taste or just bad gas taste or something. Sometimes it gets stronger 1 or 2 days after it's been in the fridge. I notice it most when it hits the back of my mouth. On the other hand, I buy the Berkley Farms or even Crystal and find that it tastes really good, but maybe a little of a rice taste if rice tasted sweet. They cannot stand the taste of that milk--completely opposite. Recently I've been putting a glass of the Lucern milk in the microwave for 30 secs and finding that it takes the edge off of it. Maybe it has something to do with the heating process during the homogenization or whatever. I'm going to try drinking raw milk anyway because of other things I am reading. But in our family we disagree on which taste of milk is nasty and which is good. Posted by: Matt on January 20, 2010 04:59 PM My wife and I are BIG milk drinkers - four to five gallons a week - and we have been noticing the bad taste from Walmart's Great Value Skim milk here in Austin Texas. Neither of us can stomach the strong taste so we are returning the two unopened gallons and are going back to milk from H.E.B. which has so far been fine. Posted by: Rick on January 20, 2010 07:01 PM Thank heavens I found this. I've been drinking Kroger skim milk for years and not often (thank goodness) but every once in awhile I encounter this phenomenon. Opened a brand new ice cold gallon this morning to eat with my lovely chocolate doughnuts and AAAAAARGGGH! It is not an onion or garlic taste, or a sour or spoiled taste, or a rice taste. I can't describe it. It tastes bad going down and leaves a worse aftertaste. As we would say here in the South, it has a "whang" to it. @:) The post by KG was very interesting. If it is something the cows are ingesting, it's the SAME thing, because the bad taste is always exactly the same. I can't particularly identify it as a plasticky or chemical taste but I'm sure it could also have something to do with the containers or packaging process. Whatever it is, they need to figure it out and find some way to avoid it. Back to Kroger tonight to change out the milk and keeping my fingers crossed that the new gallon won't taste just the same. Posted by: Emily on January 21, 2010 10:26 AM I am in St Louis, MO and I am experiencing the same problem I have gone out and bought 4 different brands and they all have that distinctive disgusting taste and smell. I have told others here and they say they haven't noticed thankfully I am not the only one that has noticed. Its strange that the taste is simialr through all these brands everybody has mentioned across the country. Posted by: Rebecca on January 24, 2010 07:51 PM If you can get past the how / why / what, try adding a SMALL amount of vanilla. I used immitation vanilla. Learned this from a powdered milk box abut 35 years ago. Posted by: KT on January 28, 2010 02:47 PM I have been noticing this taste for several years now, mostly in Kroger 1% milk. The people at the store were very unconcerned about it. My kids refused to drink this milk. My husband says it tastes like the milk he had when he was a kid and his parents tried to stretch it by adding powdered milk to it. I noticed on the label of ALL the varieties of Kroger milk that they don't just list milk and vitamin D, they all list milk, skim milk and vitamins. What is up with that? Why add skim milk to whole milk? Posted by: Krissy on February 5, 2010 07:28 AM I'm so glad I've found this site. My milk has tasted terrible in the last 2 weeks. I drink Lucerene Lactose free. Tried King Soopers and the same thing. I'm dying for a nice cool glass of milk. HELP! Posted by: Mimi on February 8, 2010 08:31 PM I have been getting the same thing here in riverside california. I thought it was just the brand, swiss, staters, hi-top and another I dont recall the name..the stores were staters and winco. The hy top I bought was doing great for 6months and in the past 2 weeks the milk is starting to have that funky tatse again. I have been going through this for a couple years now. Someone at the store said, always grab for the milk in the back, rather than the ones up front, due to not be cold enough? I dont know about that. I will try the carton ones and see what happens, may just go powder maybe that will taste better. Has anyone gotten a hold of a dairy and ask them what they think it might be? is it they are putting something new into the milk to enhance something? its seems to be across the US and it doesnt seems to be in every gallon of milk. YES! I thought I was going crazy! My husband would occasionally buy milk from Walmart. Each time he did, I could taste this terrible taste and was like a borderline sour milk. It's disgusting! I too can smell it as soon as I open the container! I am a HUGE milk drinker and am really wondering what in the world could be causing this! Is this even safe? I won't let him buy milk from Walmart anymore! I am so happy to see other people on here tasting the same thing! I am going to write to Land O Lakes and find out what in the world is going on! Posted by: Katy on February 13, 2010 07:57 PM I bought skim milk from Sam's Club a couple days ago. It tastes AWFUL. I'm bringing it back. I had it in Rice Krispies and had to throw the cereal out. What the heck is going on? Posted by: Gilemena on February 14, 2010 11:39 AM I just noticed this yesterday. I bought a gallon jug of milk from Walmart in the DFW area. I made a glass of chocolate milk and ended up dumping it out because it was so disgusting. I thought maybe the dishwasher didn't rinse the soap well enough. Then I tried a drink of it straight from the jug - and I concluded it was the milk. It had a very bad chemical tasting aftertaste. I went to a different grocery store today and bought a new jug of milk. Same thing happened. Whatever it is, I don't like because I LOVE to drink milk!!! Posted by: Wendy on February 14, 2010 06:55 PM I live in NW Pennsylvania, and for the past few years I have noticed an odd taste in organic skim/nonfat milk ONLY. I usually buy Organic Valley or Horizon and every so often both would have this odd taste--it's not spoiled, more of a metallic taste. I stopped drinking those brands and stuck with my store brand (Wegmans) or Wegmans organic skim and both are fine. So far, I've only experienced this weird taste in organic Horizon or Organic valley milk, both in cartons. Yesterday I decided to try O.V. again and it's horrible. I'm going to dump it. I don't know what's causing it but it's put me off these two brands of organic milk. Posted by: Kris on February 16, 2010 08:54 AM The only milk that tastes decent in Prospect Heights Brooklyn, NY is that which you get at the Farmers Market for about $6 a quart. I used to milk cows as a teenager and this is the only stuff that comes close to the taste I remember. Organic Valley and Horizon use the UHT pasteurization process which affects the texture of the milk. This process extends shelf life, but I don't care for these brands. My friend says the Natural Cow organic brand is pasteurized the normal way and is second best to the Farmers Market varieties. Cream-o-land, the ordinary milk brand around here, recently started packaging quarts in plastic instead of cardboard. I cannot abide the plastic taste in milk and will not buy milk in plastic containers. Just one bodega offers another brand, Derle Farms, with quarts packaged in paper cartons. Tuscan milk in paper cartons is also acceptable. Finding decent milk has become a consuming effort nowadays! I don't understand either how the producers can sell such a nasty product. I drink fresh ground coffee from a french press coffee maker, and I am particular about the milk or cream that I use. Posted by: Kimberly on February 18, 2010 05:57 AM I am in Santa Barbara CA and I drink milk on a regular basis. A few months ago I noticed the milk started to taste different. At first I thought it was "bad" milk. Then I realized after subsequent purchases that this formula or process had somehow changed. The 2% milk no longer tastes watery, it tastes fuller and seems thicker. But the other side is it tastes like it is about to spoil. I noticed it in both the Ralph's (Kroger) and Horizon brands. I'll be calling the number on the milk carton next week. 1-800-697-2448. Posted by: blue on March 5, 2010 11:25 PM I've noticed during the past year or two that Horizon milk has a funky metallic taste and smell, just awful.... Also, I've repeatedly tossed brand new cartons of Horizon half-and-half because what comes out looks like stringy, snotty mucous.... rather disgusting and repulsive. No more Horizon products for me. I now buy organic milk from a small local dairy and haven't had a problem. Posted by: Anne O'D on March 10, 2010 02:01 PM Target milk is awful for us. Smells and tastes sour to us. Big Y milk seems just fine. We are in CT. Why is Target milk like that? Posted by: Krish on March 11, 2010 08:56 PM I have noticed this indescribable taste and odor in a few of the gallon bottles of Target (Market Pantry) branded fat free, that I have purchased over the past 2 years. Hoping for better results with Kemps. Posted by: Alex on March 12, 2010 08:56 AM They know they are putting "Something" in it, or as they put it "something else" when they are asked if they are adding Whey protein. You should try to make cheese with it. Posted by: userr8507 on March 12, 2010 04:45 PM I hate that funky bad milk taste. I don't seem to get this taste with milk in paper cartons. I go all over to find milk in paper cartons. Posted by: Susan on March 14, 2010 10:30 AM we have been experiencing the same thing in Rochester ny for the past year. we have tried buying from a dairy (glass bottles). we have tried buying in 1/2 gallons instead of gallons. sometimes the taste is bad right when we bring it home from the store. next we're trying paper cartons. Posted by: abh on March 15, 2010 08:48 PM I haven't noticed the taste of milk much here in Utah lately but it has all tasted quite clean. Sometimes in the past I have had some 2% that had some taste that I liked and I describe it as a distinctively creamy flavor. I was in Connecticut last weekend and I bought a bottle of Whole milk by "Garelick Farms" Posted by: Shea on March 17, 2010 01:43 AM I live in Toronto, Canada and my wife & I started to notice this awful skunky taste about 2-3 years ago. We have always been big milk drinkers (2% milk) & have tried various brands/stores etc. & find it's hit & miss. Sometimes it's fine for a few weeks or so then it seems it doesn't matter what brand you buy it's just downright awful. She always makes me a tea in my travel mug before I head off for work & the taste was too overpowering to drink yesterday morning. I even find there are varying degrees of this "awfulness" from mild but tolerable to pour that crap down the drain now! I'm sick & tired of this "Skunky Milk" problem, it really makes me wonder what the hell they are putting in the supply nowadays!! Posted by: CB on March 31, 2010 07:23 PM My husband and I live in upstate NY, surrounded by dairy farms. We usually buy local milk, which is fantastic. But some days my husband will pick some up from Target on his way home from work. It's so, so bad. I've noticed that flavor for two years, and he even noticed with the last gallon he bought. As others on this board have expressed, I'm glad to have found a thread about it! Posted by: Miles on April 2, 2010 08:27 AM Ok, after dealing with this for about a year and posting a comment here about it, I think I've come to the conclusion that it's a "freshness" issue. I decided to go to our local mom & pop "milk store" that gets their milk fresh daily from a local dairy. I asked them about the horrible taste of supermarket milk (particularly skim). She told me it's particularly bad for skim milk because some time ago they changed the rules on freshness dating and because skim keeps longer, the freshness dates were extended. When milk sits in a supermarket and is exposed to flourescent lights, it tends to degrade the proteins (and lipids - but I have no idea what that means). Needless to say, it makes the milk taste bad. Posted by: on April 12, 2010 07:05 AM I was searching for "bitter soapy tasting milk" and found this forum. Has anyone had this happen with raw milk? Thanks Posted by: CC on April 13, 2010 04:43 PM I have noticed this in Prarie Farms and Meijer brands... Kids refuse to drink it and it tastes awful, I agree more Chemical than ricey. The only milk I buy now is DEAN and Oberwies. After all this conversation though it looks like it hasn't really been narrowed down.. Ferminted Grain, Oxidation, additives. Does anyone know of any studies that have been done on the Milk that exhibit this taste... I've been throwing it away for months now when I find the taste. Since I don't know what it is I'm not going to risk giving it to my kids. Too many stories of tainted additives in the news to take the risk. Posted by: Daniele on April 14, 2010 03:07 PM I have been drinking Horizon organic milk reduced fat with omega 3 for a while. But today, the one I bought from Kroger at the Atlanta rd was horrible. It did not have any smell, so I drank it without any hesitation..then soon I found out it had very weird taste. It was not "rotten milk", it was more like a "milk contaminated with some chemicals". Because I am pregnant now, I tried my best to throw up..I am still hoping it wasn't toxic stuff...I returned the milk to the Kroger and got a different company's organic milk, which tastes fine.. Posted by: sachi on April 15, 2010 09:25 PM I live in North West Florida & just bought a gallon of Dairy Fresh fat free milk & it tastes awful. I also say it tastes "skunky" or "twangy". I stopped buying the store brands becasue of this taste a few years ago but I guess now the "name brands" are selling the same junk... Very sad to have to pour out after paying almost $5 for the gallon. Who can we complain too??? Posted by: Meme on May 3, 2010 05:19 PM I am SO glad I am not the only one noticing this. My family thinks I am crazy, but every organic skim milk I try tastes like chemicals! I am in the Philadelphia area and I just started noticing this about 6 months ago here. ALL Target milk is disgusting and I cannot drink any milk from a plastic container. I like to use organic dairy, so I have been sticking with 1%, but I will try the Wegman's brand as suggested by someone above. I used to love milk, now it too much work to find milk that doesn't taste nasty.....so sad. Thank you everyone for the info! Posted by: KKL on May 11, 2010 01:53 PM Chicago area. I noticed the chemical taste in Horizon a couple years ago. Organic Valley has been hit or miss. I'm thinking about going back to Oberweis as a pp stated. Stopped buying that because of the cuckoo politician wannabee who owns it. I found this page because I have 2 unbearable Archer Farms Organic Skim milk cartons that taste like chemicals more than milk! I think Stonyfield farms organic was pretty good last time I tried it - has anyone had problems with that milk? Posted by: DJH on May 16, 2010 10:13 PM Wow. SO glad this came up on Google. I bought a 1% 1/2 gallon Horizon Organic milk 2 days ago. I had a glass this morning and noticed a chemical taste. I immediately thought of Jet Dry rinse agent and thought perhaps the residue was still on the glass. So I drank some straight from the carton.Still tasted like chemicals. I have had GI problems all day as well (unknown if it's coincidence or related). I think I'm done with milk. It used to be my favorite thing to drink but now I'm concerned. Posted by: Julie C. on May 29, 2010 08:08 PM I've noticed the same chemical taste in Horizon's milks. I don't buy it now. Also, I avoid other milks in cartons. I like those in glass bottles best---or in plastic bottles. Posted by: Susan Daniel on June 4, 2010 03:46 PM I stumbled upon this forum when looking up why my milk tasted kind of metallic and soapy today. I absolutely cannot stand the taste of pasteurized store milk so I always buy raw milk from a local farmer and it's always rich and sweet, especially throughout the summer. However, the milk I bought yesterday looked really thin and bluish with all the whitish cream floating on top. It looked fine initially when I picked it up. However, I didn't have the ability to get it into the fridge for 1-1/2 hours today. I noticed by the time I got home it had done all that separating and when I went to drink a glass, having been looking forward to it all day, it had that weird taste to it, like I often get from store milk. I called the farm to ask about what might cause it and they said it was either one of two causes. The first was that they had just cleaned out their tank and equipment the morning I got my milk (which was milked that morning as well) so it was possible I had some cleaning contamination in a small degree. However, the biggest contributor was that the milk, being only partially cooled at the time I picked it up, oxidized in the car from exposure to sunlight for that 90 minute timeframe (damn traffic accident and detours preventing me from getting home), which was sped up by not being chilled. Basically, if milk is not chilled quickly and kept out of light while it is chilling, the fats will oxidize and bring out a pronounced metallic or soapy taste. The milk is still good, just has an off taste to it. The farm offered to replace my milk for free, but I agreed to a half price replacement since I feel a lot of it was my fault and not theirs that it went bad. The new gallon tasted perfect! Lesson learned, keep milk out of sunlight and get it into the fridge ASAP!!!! Posted by: Tiffany on June 9, 2010 11:11 PM Seems I found this page the same way many of you have. Googled "Why milk has taken on a wierd taste just recently". Posted by: Gary on June 14, 2010 09:46 PM Yeah I'm in the New York City area, and the same thing is happening. We bought skim milk from our local A&P, like we usually do, and this time, it tastes absolutely terrible - like it's full of chemicals. Given that we are strapped for cash, we kept the gallon even though it tastes horrible, and now, two days past the written expiration, it does not smell or taste sour, but still has that chemical taste. Perhaps it is due to some chemical the cows are eating so that the milk doesn't go bad as easily? I do feel that this issue is rooted mostly on the cows themselves and their diets. I called up my mother and she feels it's possibly due to a national movement from the FDA, as all parts of the nation are experiencing this. She thinks perhaps it's the consequence of a vaccine farmers are now being forced to use on their cows - and i think she might be right. Posted by: Graham on June 15, 2010 04:24 PM I can't believe how many people have experienced what I just experienced with the last two cartons of Organic Valley fat-free milk. I couldn't identify the flavor until I read posts about "ricey" flavored milk. It's as if someone rinsed off the starch from raw rice and added it to the milk, kind of a cardboard flavor with it as well. This is very strange. I thought "Organic" would be the way to go, but now I wonder. Posted by: Shauna on June 18, 2010 10:39 PM I've experienced this same strange bitter "chemical" taste in Ralphs 2% lactose free milk that is a week before expiration. Been buying this brand for years and never had this bitter and medicinal taste. This is in Agoura Hills, California. Posted by: John on June 21, 2010 12:18 PM This is slightly off-topic, but just curious to see if anyone else has noticed something similar... can't find anything on google about it... The most recent gallon of skim milk we purchased at Walmart was NOT skim milk at all, but something more like 2% or whole milk! You milk drinkers out there know the difference... you can tell in a heartbeat. Especially if you've been drinking skim for years. As far as BAD milk goes, we've only had one carton go bad immediately, a container of horizon whole milk for our daughter. It tasted bad the day we purchased it, like it was already sour weeks before the expiration date. Posted by: Josh on June 23, 2010 01:18 AM OMG I cannot even begin to say how happy to know that I'm not crazy!! I've noticed this strange, indescribable milk taste as well and I FINALLY found a milk that had the fresh milk taste were all missing..I randomly bought milk from walgreens and the brand is deerfield farms (i think its from Connecticut)IT IS PERFECT! I only bought my milk from there for the past several months and ...sigh..they don't have the deerfield brand anymore! They have Berkeley farms which is disgusting..so I'm back to square one..just got some Clover brand milk from a little family market..we'll see how it lives up to deerfield...:( Posted by: marie w. on June 28, 2010 04:29 PM I've noticed a strange flavor lately too (I would put it more in the "ricey" category but really it is hard to describe), and I've also noticed that the milk I've bought both times has been "ULTRA PASTURIZED" rather than just pasturized. Has anyone done a taste comparison on this? I think I'll do one soon. This might be the problem. Posted by: Liz on July 1, 2010 07:19 PM So I did notice a common connection here...2% milk..so I got to thinking Maybe something in the process of lowering the fat content changes the taste...sure enough I just purchased whole milk vitamin d Lucerne brand in the half gallon cardboard container (usually had the strange taste in the 2%, hated it) and it tastes totally fine! I've gone through 2 gallons in 2 weeks and it tastes fantastic..I don't know if other brands have a better tasting whole milk as well, but thought I would share...ill take a few extra calories for good tasty milk anyway! Hope this helps! Posted by: marie w. on July 8, 2010 03:06 AM I've noticed the same thing about certain brands of butter. I have a degree in biochemistry, and I've taken classes about the chemistry involved in cooking and flavor. I did some research on what affects butter and milk flavors using google scholar, and I think this article explains pretty well why oxidation or other processes that break up the fatty acids in butter or milk cause the bad taste: Posted by: Krysti on July 18, 2010 12:12 PM I am glad to know others are having the same problem! I have noticed a weird metallic taste in the 2% milk. Just basically the milk doesn't taste right. I only notice this with the 2% dairymens milk that I get at Target. I'm in northeast Ohio here. The milk I get from grocery stores is fine, but I always lately notice a difference with the milk from Target. Posted by: Kim on July 21, 2010 09:45 PM Wow! I was not aware this was a wide-spread problem. Having been reared on whole milk hand milked by my father twice daily, I occasionally experienced the taste of wild onion milk when our milk cow added a few to her diet. I have continued to enjoy dairy processed 1% or 2% milk every day of my 64 years but had never encountered the bitter chemical taste in milk until August 3, 2010. My 96 yr. old mother receives a half-pint carton of PET whole milk 3 times daily in her diet in a NC nursing home. Her children take turns assisting her with meals. On Tuesday I noticed that her milk seemed thick and coagulated though it was not out-of-date nor did smell sour. Upon tasting it myself, I discovered a strong bitter, chemical taste. I did not swallow it, but was left with a very bad after taste and a lasting sensation of having had alum resting on my tongue. I did report it to the nursing home administrator who has contacted the supplier. I expect to receive some answers to my obvious questions. Finding and reading this blog has been helpful. Posted by: Sarah on August 5, 2010 09:54 PM Why is my milk from Walgreens (Berkeley Farms) going bad over a week before the spoil date? This is happening all the time. It doesn't happen to Safeway milk and everything else in the fridge is fine. Just wondering if it is an inferior product or Walgreens poor refrigeration is the cause. Posted by: laurie on August 8, 2010 03:09 PM Same here. Tuscan 1%. Disgusting. In New York City. I was blaming it on the Shredded Wheat which is the only time I use milk. My last two gallons have this awful taste. I am writing Tuscan now. Switching brands but to what? Thanks for this post. Posted by: Don Everett on August 14, 2010 08:52 AM I live in Alaska and today I bought a half gallon of Horizon Organic 2% milk. The expiration date is 9/13. I went to bed but couldn't sleep, so I got up and decided to drink some of the milk. I opened the carton and drank directly from it, and it tasted like gasoline or some kind of solvent, I spit it out as it was just horrible, and for a long time afterwards my mouth watered uncontrollably and I've been spitting in a cup as I'm terrified as to what could possibly have been in that milk. It had no bad smell, and the taste was not like soured milk but as I said like gasoline. I am going to contact the company tomorrow to tell them of this, and I will never buy Horizon Organic milk again. In fact I am considering giving up milk altogether, and I've been a big milk drinker all my life. This happened almost 2 hours ago, and I still have this horrid aftertaste and I'm still spitting out my saliva as I'm afraid to swallow it. Posted by: Diane on August 19, 2010 06:02 AM I'm in FL, and I hanestly haven't noticed a diference in my milk at all. Anyone in FL having milk problems? Posted by: Tiffany on August 20, 2010 12:10 PM i live in north california, on an air force base actually. we get berkley farms brand milk and i swear, 30% of the time the milk is either expired or has this new taste you have been describing, i cant tell which. this is with expiration dates as early as 2 weeks out. Posted by: tofu on August 24, 2010 11:18 AM Just got a fresh half gallon of lactaid - and i knew that flavor when i took my first sip. tasted like pennies! i remember when i took lunesta 1 night to try and sleep and almost threw up the whole night and next dat from the metallic taste in my mouth. blech! dumping this milk out... i know lactaid sucks, but its all i could drink, now it just tastes BAD Posted by: jonham on August 26, 2010 12:34 AM Hi everyone, I'm a milk producer in Quebec, Canada (we have 12 000 cows at our farm) and the taste you are all talking about is a very known and documented problem. The bad chemical taste in milk is due to the presence of wild onions in the grain that we feed to our cows. The cereal mix that we use at our farm come from 31 differents local suppliers and each of them have more or less onions than others, wich explain variation in taste trough out the day. The taste is more noticable in skim milk. Before 1994 in Quebec grain producers were alowed to use preemergent herbicides to eliminate wild onions but now only organic control is allowed wich is more difficult. Organic herb control is affect by rain, wind and temperature and sometime give no results. There is no easy and cheap way to separate wild onions and cereals. BTW, here in Canada and probably in US also, milk is the most regulated thing you can buy, at our farm, we have automated samplers that take 6 samples per hours and gouverrnement inspectors take a copy of the logs from the computer 3 times a week. Also, all equiment (pumps, piping,processing, feeders and tank) are clean every night with biological enzyme and no chemical are use. Hope that my english is not too bad and that you learned a little from my 32 years in the buisness. Posted by: Richard Gauthier on August 28, 2010 03:40 AM Sorry, should have read 1200 cows, not 12000 , that would be a hell of a farm ! Posted by: Richard Gauthier on August 28, 2010 03:57 AM I have not been able to find who to complain to about the chemical taste in calif milk, however I have been wondering if this tasre comes from the cleansing procedure at the dairy when they clean the tubing that the milk passes through from the cow to the stainless steel holding tank or from the cleaning of the transports tank. Any comments along this line? Posted by: ken noble on August 28, 2010 10:49 PM I have stopped buying Great Value Milk entirely. I am not certain about this, but it seems to me that it started tasting bad around the same time as the expiration dates became farther out. Have any of you tasted the "shelf stable" milk? It is not refrigerated in the store, but on a shelf. To me, the unpleasent taste in Walmart milk is reminiscent of of the shelf stable milk. Do you think dairies are adding some of the stabilizers to extend to life of the milk? Posted by: resa on September 11, 2010 03:14 PM I started drinking Horizon Organic Milk about 6 months ago. Within the last couple of months I've detected an aftertaste similar to the way a pet flea collar smells in two separate cartons. In a 4 year old thread on another messageboard someone complained of a bandaid taste in this brand. Posted by: Take the yuck out of my milk on September 18, 2010 08:04 AM I have loved milk all my life but don't usually drink it because I'm not sure it's good for you, although chocolate milk is irristable and can replace a dessert. I started making yogurt about a month ago and have become hyper aware of the taste of milk and am perplexed about it not being so good. I read many articles online about ultra pasturized milk and try not to buy it. However, it seems to have taken over the whole dairy section. I can only get non-ultra at Publix (Greenwise) and Ingles (I think it was Organic Valley). My brother just came home with organic milk from Walmart, their brand, and it's ultra and tastes funny. It comes only in 1/2 gallon sizes making it more expense than the other two that come in gallon sizes. Glad I found this website so I know I'm not crazy. I'm going to try raw milk but have to drive 45 minutes to get it. Posted by: Linddar on September 27, 2010 07:13 PM Location: Mpls. MN Milk: Whole and 2% Brands affected so far: Kemps, Land O Lakes, Horizon I even emailed Kemps and they suggested it was light oxidation and improper storage with the lights always on in the cooler. I thought I was going to have to stop all milk drinking. My coffee requires milk for my taste. Pouring out my morning juice just is sad. We found Byerly's brand to never have this tainted flavor ever. Whole milk and have been buying it for years. Once in a while we stop off out of convenience to pick up another brand. That was yesterday and now I have an icky latte I just made and it's not drinkable with this taste. My tastebuds are registering a soapy aftertaste. Posted by: Dennis on September 28, 2010 07:45 AM Bought 2% Archer Farms Organic from Target this week and the odor and taste was so strong we couldn't drink it. Chemical, almost like lighter fluid, like tin. I wondered if it traveled in a tanker that hadn't been thoroughly cleaned. I've bought this before with no problems, but I may just switch to our local dairy. With a 2-1/2 year old we are going through oodles more milk lately. But it creeps me out to no end wondering what the heck is in this stuff. Posted by: Andrea on September 30, 2010 07:20 PM Location: Columbus, OH. Posted by: jherber on October 4, 2010 08:24 PM It is the lighting where the milk is kept in the grocery store. If the milk is directly under the florescent tubes, it tastes bad. Try to buy where the milk is getting indirect lighting from florescent lights. Maybe the plastic for the milk containers has changed within the last few years to allow this to happen? But I am 100% convinced that the nasty taste is due to the lighting. There is even a commercial lighting company that has florescent tubes desinged to not affect the flaor of milk. One company is Promolux Lighting International. Check it out. Posted by: KT on October 5, 2010 02:37 PM I live in NYC and also have been having this problem with different name brands (Tuscan, Oaktree, Rolling, Elmhurst, etc.). I thought if I bought milk from large chain stores instead of small local stores it would be different. The only difference was the price, I ended up paying more at the large stores for bad milk. I plan to make a mass mailing to these milk companies and/or the distributing stores informing them to take this matter seriously. We have gotten outrageous and unfair price increases on staples like milk to then have this situation occur, enough is enough. Posted by: EC on October 31, 2010 10:52 PM I'm glad to hear others notice this foul taste too. I have a few comments which I observed over the years which might help: I directly attribute the taste to milk in plastic jugs only. The first time I tasted milk in platic, 10 or 15 years ago, I notice the taste. I simply stayed with the cardboard cartens. Then a few years ago all daries stopped using cardboard and I had to switch to plastic. The single quarts were still many times available in cardboard, but since I drink a lot of milk, there were never enough cartons in stock. For me the only solution is the Swiss brand in Giant stores. Swiss brand is no good at other stores and rarely it is not good at Giant. (no I don't work for Swiss or Giant) My theory is that Swiss uses a solid white plastic which reflects some of the lighting. I also pick the gallon jugs in the back so that they are not exposed as much to the lighting. I saw earlier that someone noted the floresent lighting being the cause and that would explain why glass bottles were popular years ago, and caused no bad taste after being exposed to sunlight. Someone else noted about the cows in the wild onions or garlic. This does give milk an absolutly horrible tase, but it has a different flavor. I do wish I could find an article that stated the true cause and that daries could then address it. Posted by: RD on November 5, 2010 09:55 PM Hello. I have also noticed an odd change in milk in the last few months. How I would describe the taste would be like the dairies took a bunch of powdered milk and mixed it up and filled their cartons (cardbord or plastic, it's happened to me in both) with that instead of real milk. It reminds me of powdered milk that I had off and on as a kid, but with more of a bite. It doesn't taste smooth and sweet like milk should, but bitter and bitey. But not like it's gone sour. I can smell it as soon as I open the milk as well. It is a different smell. Again, reminds me of powdered milk. I only drink organic and have noticed it randomly in Trader Joe's Organic and Smith's brand of Organic (so far I've only noticed it in 1%, so I will try fat-free and 2%). I live in Nevada by the way, just for reference on where all this is happening. Anyway, it's very frustrating because it ruins how my coffee or espresso tastes! Something is up. I have never noticed this before in 42 years of life. I may start writing milk companies (not that it will do anything)just so they can be aware that we notice something. Just wanted to add my comments about how it tasted to me, in the event anyone else noticed the powdered milk taste, but with a more bitter afterbite. Maybe I'll check back here off and on to see if there are any new discoveries. Thanks for all the posts. Posted by: Kim on November 27, 2010 09:05 PM I have had that problem for the past few years. For a while I only purchased Deans milk because I didn't taste it in there... now some times Deans has the chemical taste and sometimes it doesn't. I actually have had luck with the Great Value(walmart) brand milk. But what's the deal? Posted by: Lisa on November 30, 2010 11:10 AM I live in Indiana, and i Noticed the same thing with the Dean's milk here. it was fine until about 2 years ago, now dean's taste's just awful, and everything else is fine. And everytime anyone in my family buys it, they think its just fine, and act like i'm going crazy. Now i have to make sure we have at least one extra gallon of a different kind just so they won't buy more dean's, cause thats all they want to buy for some reason Posted by: Steven on December 14, 2010 02:28 AM I'm in Toronto and have also noticed a strange chemical taste in milk in the last year or so. First, I thought it was the cheap brand of milk I was buying, so I've switched brands a few times, but to no avail. I notice the taste even in the most expensive, organic and microfiltered brands. I know its not my fridge because the nasty taste is present in every new bag I open. What is this weird chemical taste coming from? Posted by: Amanda on December 14, 2010 08:26 PM I have been noticing the same thing for a couple of years now so you are not crazy. In fact I found this thread because i googled "why does my milk taste weird" Every now and again from every brand I've tried I get an off batch with almost a sawdust after taste. I can't explain why but I am an avid milk drinker and I know it to be true. Posted by: greg g on December 18, 2010 09:45 PM I've also noticed this, I've been going crazy about it also, because I am in my teen years and need milk. I've noticed that the first day the milk will taste fine, but usually the third or fourth it has this taste, like a sour taste. You can taste it raw (plain, glass of milk, cereal) and you can taste it cooked (oatmeal). It's a very gross, almost sour taste, but the strange thing is, I live with my family, mom, dad, and brother, and only I taste it. At first I thought I was trippin' til I read these comments. Posted by: dalia on December 22, 2010 09:52 AM Great thread!!! I've been noticing the same thing -- milk that is fresh, but tastes so bad that I have to just throw it out! Stonyfield Farms milk still tastes good. Whatever they're doing, I hope they keep doing it! Posted by: rita on December 22, 2010 07:59 PM i bought horizon organic at target 2 days ago and it smelled and tasted very nasty. It wasn't spoiled because it did not split when boiling it but it smelled like a barnyard and a chemical smell and taste. Really weird and unusually. I bought this brand before and never had a problem. Posted by: dawn on December 23, 2010 12:38 PM I think what we're 'tasting' is the usage of recycled materials to manufacture the 'new' containers. Especially if it's HDPE plastic. Posted by: on December 28, 2010 04:16 PM We've had this problem in Colorado as well. Safeway, King Soopers, Wal-Mart, Sunflower Market, Target, Costco, etc. all have this problem. We've gone so far as returning the open jugs to the store for an exchange but only a few times because it's such a pain in the rear. Posted by: Mike on January 5, 2011 08:09 PM I just got a half gallon of lactose free milk from Albertson's in Oregon, the carton date is feb 17 2011 it tastes skunky, the same aftertaste as skunky beer. I microwave my milk for my coffee and the first day that got rid of the flavor. this morning the milk felt slimy and microwaving did not get rid of the taste. Posted by: tom on January 7, 2011 09:48 AM I just got a half gallon of lactose free milk from Albertson's in Oregon, the carton date is feb 17 2011 it tastes skunky, the same aftertaste as skunky beer. I microwave my milk for my coffee and the first day that got rid of the flavor. this morning the milk felt slimy and microwaving did not get rid of the taste. Posted by: tom on January 7, 2011 09:48 AM Sorry about the double post. ooops! Posted by: tom on January 7, 2011 11:25 AM I'm so glad I'm not the only one with this problem!! I moved to Boulder, CO in June and noticed that the milk had a funny taste. I just chalked it up to a bad gallon but after a few different stores had the same problem I've pretty much stopped drinking milk. This makes me sad because I LOVE a glass of milk morning, noon, or night. I've lived in IL, KY, and FL and do not remember milk tasting like this. I'm honestly ready to try soy milk...I don't know what else to do. My husband thinks I'm going crazy, he drinks it and says it's fine; why can only certain people taste it I wonder? Posted by: Stacy on January 11, 2011 02:49 PM I have noticed the change in the taste of milk over the last several years but only googled today after a conversation with a co-worker who says she has noticed a change too. I was a huge milk drinker in my teens and twenties but started to notice a taste that made me think of like an over-strong milk flavor. Honestly, it tastes like the smell of a dairy farm (with an undertone of manure-awful, sickening). I haven't noticed the chemical taste others mention but wonder if it is closer to the "ricey" flavor others have mentioned. I can taste it all of the major dairy brands even in yogurt and cheese. I switched to organic after reading The Omnivore's Dilemma-my theory being that if most cows are eating cornfeed diets and life in the CAFO that changed the taste of milk and hopefully the organic cows get more hay and grass (you just don't see grazing dairy cows like you used to...did you notice?). Organic usually tastes better to me. Sometimes I still taste it though. I also changed from skim to 2% with Omega-3s (after reading some posts, the increased fat in the 2% plus the omega-3s may be helping the taste for me). It seems to taste better and I can eat cereal again but still cannot drink a plain glass of milk. Thank you for this thread. I hope those that wrote to dairy companies will post any feedback they get. Posted by: JMB on January 11, 2011 08:23 PM I've had this experience twice now, the latest with a gallon of fat free milk from Oaktree. I'd describe it as an old cooking oil taste. If you've ever smelled old cooking oil, that scent is similar to the weird taste in this milk. I've experienced the same taste in locally mass-produced bakery style linzer tarts, and I attributed it to them using old oil. Now I'm thinking that they perhaps used dairy products from the same producers as this milk, because it is the same off-taste. I wound up throwing the tarts out and will be doing so with this milk as well. Posted by: Dolores on January 17, 2011 09:36 AM I'm in PA and am having the same problem. At first it was just from one Turkey Hill store - the other local Turkey Hill store was fine. But this week I got a gallon from Harrisbury Dairies, and it had the same "off" taste. It's driving me nuts, because milk is basically all I drink. Why doesn't anyone know what is causing this??? Posted by: Lori on January 20, 2011 08:24 AM I'm in NYC and have noticed that virtually all of the milk I buy here has this taste. The only milk that doesn't is Horizon Organic and milk from Ronnybrook (a small, local farm that uses glass bottles). It seems like it's from the container, but I'm not sure. Either way, I can't drink milk without holding my nose. Posted by: Laura on January 20, 2011 11:39 AM It i Winter here in Fern Park, FL a suburb of Orlando. When I was in Georgia, Statesboro I noticed the differences from time to time. Now in Florida, I have the second container of what I call bad taste milk. This one is so bad not even Hershey's Chocolate will cover up the bad taste. I either my milk from Win-Dixie, or Walmart. I can't remember if the Win-Dixie has been bad, but this last container from Walmart is just horrible and has to be thrown out. I wonder if anyone has researched and actually tested what is actually in the milk that is causing this? If you have please let me know. Posted by: Ben on January 23, 2011 08:07 PM This is happening to us. I live in Tennessee. We have bought at least 4 gallons that had a weird or spoiled taste. this has happened over the last 3 months. ??? Somethings not right. Posted by: plw672 on January 25, 2011 11:03 PM This is interesting because I noticed this problem also for the past few years, thinking I just didn't like milk. I switched to Horizon(bought at Target) and it tastes much better. I am currently in Denmark, where my boyfriend is from. Their milk here tastes great! It's nothing like any of the milk I have drank in the U.S.-I am from Omaha, Nebraska. My boyfriend has always found it very odd that our milk in the U.S. doesn't spoil as quickly as it does here in Denmark. They also have very strict laws here about what gets put into their food, no additives or anything..nothing is fortified with all kinds of additional nutrients. It's also a law here that they have to list on the packaging of the food where it came from. I wish we had laws like that in the U.S. - and better milk. Aside from this, if you wonder where our food comes from(and what they are doing to it)-watch a documentary called "Food Inc."you can find it on youtube. It's kind of scary, to know what kind of meat we are eating. Sorry about straying from the subject of milk, but I assume some of you might be interested in knowing what we are putting into our bodies. Makes me sad that we can't get realiable information about where our food comes from-even the "fresh" stuff, and don't know whether or not it's really organic. Posted by: tiredofgrossmilk on January 26, 2011 02:05 AM It is unbelievable to me that people all over this country have experienced this strange flavor and there is NO official explanation! I started drinking skim milk to lower my cholesterol, and got used to and even like the taste. But the last year or so buying milk has been a crap-shoot; I'd estimate that 25-30% of the gallons of milk I buy have that funky, "greasy" taste - I'd assumed that it was just poor quality control, with extra fat getting through to the skim milk, but it was NOT a pleasant taste, and nothing like I remember from whole milk. I haven't detected any pattern to it - I've tasted it in Sam's Club, Aldi, discount food, Wal-Mart, Target, and premium food retailer's milk. I believe that in St. Louis all of the milk comes from 1 or 2 dairies so that may explain why it's found all over this area, but my biggest concern is WHAT IS THAT TASTE? People should really start taking the milk back to the store - then the retailers would get interested in finding a solution! Posted by: patfish on January 26, 2011 02:01 PM I am employed as a farm sanitarian for a small family own dairy and what is being described is a whole series of problems known as off flavored milk. These issues are caused by the cattle eating spoiled or moldy feed. This most often happens toward the end of winter as silos begin to empty. If a cow on pasture eats wild garlic, the flavor will carry into the milk. Airborne dust and dander from unclean animals, housing, milking, and storage facilities can find it's way into the milk and can cause issues. Worn out equipment parts that allow air to be injected into the milk will cause oxidation of the product. Over agitation of the milk can cause it to become rancid. All of these issue are farm related. However, off flavors can be related to processing equipment not operating properly. I have also observed the improper handling of product by retailers. For milk not to spoil it has to be kept at 40 degrees or less. Just a brief warm up period will degrade the product. I assure you that as a farm inspector we are concerned about these off flavors they degrade the product, shorten shelf life, and in cheese making reduce yield and thus profit line of all involved. So, please if you purchase a bottle of off flavored milk, let the retailer know and call the dairy that bottled the milk and ask to talk to their quality control manager. This may mean extra work for me. But, that is what I am payed to do Posted by: milch gehaben on January 26, 2011 09:29 PM I have been battling this flavour/bad taste for a few years and had found certain brands seemed OK. Not anymore. I think the August 2010 post about the inability to use certain herbicides and thus the wild onion influence and the above wild garlic comment make sense to me. Tasted like dandelion to me that's why I think the wild onion/garlic is the problem flavor that I have encountered. I have gone from drinking 2 liters a day to none for a couple of weeks now. Milch above says complain to the retailers. Their customer service desks could care less about any complaints. "do you want your money back or replacement?" That's it. No problem resolution. No analysis, no brains, no initiative, nada! Anyway if this keeps up I can no longer drink milk after 62 years of enjoyment. Posted by: Dennis Miller on January 27, 2011 03:29 AM Interesting link on New York Times I found. I'm not sure if antibiotics have to do with the taste, but it does have to do with milk and us wondering what is in it.... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/business/26milk.html?src=me&ref=business Posted by: tiredofgrossmilk on January 27, 2011 01:30 PM I was really glad to find this forum. I don't know if it's me or a new additive to the milk out there. About a month ago, milk (I'm lactose intollerant and only drink Lactaid milk) just started to taste hideous - like moldy wood. A month later, I tried again and it tasted normal. Now, it seems I'm stuck with the horrible flavor. I wish I could like soy milk, but I never have - which is not really all that important. I just wish i had an explaination as to why this happened. Posted by: Cris Stormfox on February 2, 2011 06:16 AM I googled 'funny tasting milk' after just now realizing we have still ANOTHER odd-tasting gal. of fat free milk from Wal-Mart. I've been feeling like we're playing some kind of milk roulette -- sometimes good, sometimes not. Seems that about every 4th gal. or so is tainted. I can barely tolerate the taste, but neither can I bring myself to throw it out. Not sure how I came up with this, but to me it tastes like it has been run through a cotton rag. UGH! I actually hold my breath to minimize tasting it. Pretty much takes any pleasure out of having a glass of milk, bowl of cereal, or whatever. Now I'm discouraged to see how many different brands seem to have the same/similar problem. Great... Posted by: Angie on February 5, 2011 08:22 PM Yes! I have noticed this too. I have bought Horizon organic milk for almost 2 years since i was pregant with my son and it always tasted so good. The last 2 times I had bought whole and skim milk for us, it smelled like chemicals! I thought it was just me but when i tasted it I about gagged! I threw out both containers. I buy out milk at Krogers. What is going on!? Posted by: whitney on February 8, 2011 11:40 AM My wife and I have noticed this problem off and on for years. It only seems to be in the skim. Any fat in the milk seems to cover up the bad taste for us. I just have an observation to make. This problem was very wide spread in 08 when grain prices were high and we are seeing it now again when grain prices are very high. Maybe dairies are feeding grain byproducts instead of just grain to try to remain profitable. Remember the big drought in Russia earlier this year, and then in China, and the floods in Australia that ruined a lot of wheat. Grain prices are high right now because of bad weather. Farmers are going to plant grain, wheat and corn, this spring in record amounts. It is impossible to buy corn seed right now because it is sold out. Prices will come down next year. The best cure for high prices is high prices. Consumption goes down and production increases. Just takes a little time for adjustments to be made. Posted by: Reeder on February 9, 2011 10:31 AM I've noticed this problem on and off for 40 years. Here in NJ it's been fine for the last several years, but suddenly last week it's back. The milk tastes like plastic again. I notice the plastic taste in certain bottled water, so I always just assumed the same thing was happening to the milk, however I could never understand why the plastic taste would get in to the milk some of the time but not all of the time. Sounds like it has more to do with what the cows are eating. Anyone work in a dairy? We need someone to take a taste sample closer to the cow. Posted by: Kevin on February 13, 2011 09:14 AM I noticed some milk taste different than what I'm used to. It's kind of "malty" and sweeter. My family and I find the flavor pleasant and I enjoy drinking milk so much more now. Posted by: eden on February 21, 2011 04:09 AM OMG here in Australia its horrible!. We have so many brands coming in now. I first noticed a weird after taste in 2005, with local brands. Later on all other brands starting tasting weird. Also recently I have purchased a full coffee machine with throthing ability. for some reason some milks troth better than others, and some just sit there and boil!! WTF is going on!!!! are they putting mixed up soapy water on the tubes!? this has only happened recently. what the f*u*K are farmers doing. Posted by: arnold on February 25, 2011 01:17 AM For about two months now I've been noticing a weird taste to the 1% milk I normally buy! Again today I bought a new 3 litre bag of milk only to find the same weird taste to it. It's really turning me off of milk . It leaves a really bad after taste in your mouth. Posted by: PhoneLady on February 26, 2011 08:36 PM For about two months now I've been noticing a weird taste to the 1% milk I normally buy! Again today I bought a new 3 litre bag of milk only to find the same weird taste to it. It's really turning me off of milk . It leaves a really bad after taste in your mouth. Posted by: PhoneLady on February 26, 2011 08:36 PM I'm 60ish and live on Long Island, NY and have been a big milk drinker all my life. Lately (over the past 10-15 years or so) I've noticed milk quality getting more and more variable. I would buy a cardboard or plastic container and right away would notice a very disagreeable off-taste. Here it seems to have started with Elmhurst Dairy and Tuscan brands. Once in a while I would notice it in other brands but it seemed to be very common in these two. The milk didn't taste sour (like other posters here, I'm very sensitive to soured milk products, they turn my stomach) but it had a strange taste to it. I guess you could call it an oniony (or garlicy) taste or maybe a chemical taste. With both these brands about 4 out of every 5 containers tasted this way. Needless to say, I stopped buying these two brands a couple of years ago so I can't comment on their quality now. While I haven't seen Elmhurst Dairy milk anywhere for some time now (did they go out of business?) the Tuscan brand is hard to avoid. On LI it's absolutely everywhere! It seems that 99% of all the delis on LI as well as the 7-11s carry only Tuscan milk, which, by itself, is very suspicious. I feel this is a matter which really deserves to be investigated by the law. Especially now, considering that most supermarkets here are no longer open 24 hours and if you run out of milk in the wee morning hours you have no choice but to take your chances on Tuscan from 7-11 or some all-night deli. But the problem is spreading. After reading these posts, I took a chance on a quart of milk from Walmart. It was awful! It had a worse and quite different off-taste than the usual, more of a harsh, chemical taste. So I took it back and got a refund. Also, a couple of weeks ago I noticed that a half-gallon of Stop'n'Shop brand 2% had that oniony-garlicy taste so I took it back, too. Now I'm getting worried, I could always depend on Stop'n'Shop milk in the past but something seems to be changing now. However, on the plus side, I have noticed a couple of things which may help people. (1) I haven't noticed any off-taste in half'n'half (from many brands) and I drink a lot of this. (Mixed 50-50 with Oregon Chai Tea concentrate, it's terrific!). (2) I strongly suggest to anyone who buys a container of bad milk that, rather than dump the milk, you take it back to where you bought it and demand your money back. If everyone does this you can be sure the stores will put pressure on their suppliers to do something about the problem. Who knows, our graftinment might even wake up and take notice. Miracles do happen. Posted by: Moodie-1 on March 16, 2011 01:15 PM I'm 60ish and live on Long Island, NY and have been a big milk drinker all my life. Lately (over the past 10-15 years or so) I've noticed milk quality getting more and more variable. I would buy a cardboard or plastic container and right away would notice a very disagreeable off-taste. Here it seems to have started with Elmhurst Dairy and Tuscan brands. Once in a while I would notice it in other brands but it seemed to be very common in these two. The milk didn't taste sour (like other posters here, I'm very sensitive to soured milk products, they turn my stomach) but it had a strange taste to it. I guess you could call it an oniony (or garlicy) taste or maybe a chemical taste. With both these brands about 4 out of every 5 containers tasted this way. Needless to say, I stopped buying these two brands a couple of years ago so I can't comment on their quality now. While I haven't seen Elmhurst Dairy milk anywhere for some time now (did they go out of business?) the Tuscan brand is hard to avoid. On LI it's absolutely everywhere! It seems that 99% of all the delis on LI as well as the 7-11s carry only Tuscan milk, which, by itself, is very suspicious. I feel this is a matter which really deserves to be investigated by the law. Especially now, considering that most supermarkets here are no longer open 24 hours and if you run out of milk in the wee morning hours you have no choice but to take your chances on Tuscan from 7-11 or some all-night deli. But the problem is spreading. After reading these posts, I took a chance on a quart of milk from Walmart. It was awful! It had a worse and quite different off-taste than the usual, more of a harsh, chemical taste. So I took it back and got a refund. Also, a couple of weeks ago I noticed that a half-gallon of Stop'n'Shop brand 2% had that oniony-garlicy taste so I took it back, too. Now I'm getting worried, I could always depend on Stop'n'Shop milk in the past but something seems to be changing now. However, on the plus side, I have noticed a couple of things which may help people. (1) I haven't noticed any off-taste in half'n'half (from many brands) and I drink a lot of this. (Mixed 50-50 with Oregon Chai Tea concentrate, it's terrific!). (2) I strongly suggest to anyone who buys a container of bad milk that, rather than dump the milk, you take it back to where you bought it and demand your money back. If everyone does this you can be sure the stores will put pressure on their suppliers to do something about the problem. Who knows, our graftinment might even wake up and take notice. Miracles do happen. Posted by: Moodie-1 on March 16, 2011 01:15 PM It's the difference between the waxpaper carton and the plastic carton. In NY buying milk in the paper carton never has this taste. Everytime I have bought it in a plastic container it tastes nasty. Almost like it is expired even though it isnt. It also always has an expired smell even right after opening. If milk companies kept using paper cartons things would be fine but they are phasing it out left and right for some reason. Posted by: Chris on March 24, 2011 04:13 PM We buy carton milk in Denver and it still tastes sour. I find that Horizon is the best but sometimes I think I've purchased a bad batch. If we drank more milk, I'd gladly go back to Royal Crest. Posted by: Courtney in Denver on March 30, 2011 11:56 AM I've noticed the sawdust afertaste in two brands of organic: Stonyfield Organic Fat Free and Full Circle Fat Free. Then I noticed the codes at the top--they were identical. They were produced from the same plant and sold under two differtent brands. The taste told me they were related before I saw the codes telling me they were. Posted by: on April 4, 2011 06:24 PM We live in Reno, Nv and have noticed this for a couple of years. We would not buy milk in the one gallon plastic jugs because of the "odd" taste. Now our local dairy, Model Dairy has stopped puting milk in the 1/2 gallon cardboard containers forcing us to buy 1 gallon plasic jugs which have the "odd" taste. We tried Walmart Great Value milk in the 1 gallon jugs and it is a gamble. We will have about a month or so with milk that has no "odd" taste or smell but then all of a sudden we will get a couple of gallons that have the "odd" taste and smell. We have tried to look at the dates of the milk and have often times found that two different dates will be different. So lets say one has a date of the 25th and has no "odd" taste then we will buy some that has a date of 28th and it will have the "odd" taste. What is going on? We have tried milk from different stores and have found the same results. Milk is too expensive to just throw out its like driving down the highway and throwing $5 dollar bills out the window. Could it be that when they change out the hoses in the dairy the new ones give off the "odd" taste and smell till they are broken in? or is it something else? "Something Evil This Way Comes" !! Posted by: Rollin on April 15, 2011 10:44 AM We live in the Atlanta area and have always loved milk. We have always bought Mayfield milk, which costs a bit more than store brands, but it's always been worth the extra cost. We generally go through 2-3 gallons a week. The last 6 or 7 gallons I've bought have had a strange taste well before the expiration date. This is not a sour taste. We're switching brands now to see if that makes a difference, but we hate to give up our loyalty to Mayfield...so strange to have a long string of bad gallons. Posted by: Janet on April 18, 2011 10:59 PM I started working out of town every other week and during that time, I can't drink milk. I'm working in Rochester, NY and I have tried at least 4 different brands of milk and they all have this AWFUL taste! I don't smell a difference, but from the first sip, it is so disgusting. Posted by: Beth Jones on April 19, 2011 07:28 PM IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ: In order to possibly identify the source of the se issues, PLEASE post the numbers from the milk container here for all to see so we can compare and maybe find the common denominator. A full list of state codes is here: Posted by: on April 21, 2011 08:14 AM Live in Lafayette Colorado, I first noticed an odd chemical smell in my refrigerator - then noticed a chemical taste in my bowl of cereal. Horizon 2% milk - have not had this problem before - but if you hold the carton to your nose, you will smell the same odor. I thought maybe it was the fridge - but moved the cartons to other fridge and you could smell it there.YUK Posted by: donna on April 28, 2011 06:48 PM I can't believe this thread has been going for almost two years! After using nearly the whole carton of milk in baking and bottle feeding to my pet baby goat kid (5 weeks old), we found that the milk was unbearable to drink (Dairyland Skim). Chemical/poison taste and smell overwhelmed the milk taste. Expirey date is today. The taste actually goes up through nostrils, and all common sense says "spit it out! Poison!" I have looked up Contact #s for the company, but it is afterhours now. Will call tomarrow. I am fearful for my pet, afraid I have been feeding her poison all day!. Please contact the companies that you buy your bad tasting milk from and complain. Posted by: Theresa in Canada on May 2, 2011 08:34 PM so i was just googling " why does milk taste different" and came across this. i thought i was just crazy! lol. but i definitly notice a taste chance. i love milk and drink it all the time. only skim, because 2% tastes spoiled to me. AND only Roundy;s brand from Pick N Save. Kemps skim is discusting. Golden Gurnsey, gross. Maybe this should be brought to attention. Although documentaries like Food INC go completely ignored by our gov't, im sure this would also. guess ill just pray theres nothing thats going to kill me. i love it too much to give up. Posted by: amanda on May 14, 2011 08:04 AM My Husband and I were buying great value milk from wal-mart since it doesn't have growth hormone added to it. We bought a gallon of chocolate and a gallon of whole milk. The chocolate had a very strong chemical taste and was poured down the drain, the whole milk went sour 2 days before the expiration date, which I consider very odd. I love milk but, won't be drinking it anymore. Posted by: Danielle on May 19, 2011 03:50 PM Just had a glass of FatFree CountryFresh milk bought yesterday and it tastes horrible. I went to their site and complained. I also cannot find any news stories on this but with all these people complaining it must be addressed sooner or later I hope. Posted by: holly on May 26, 2011 01:12 PM As a milk lover, I almost blammed the unpleasant taste on the whole grains in my Lucky Charms. BUT I like whole grains, so that couldn't be it. It was the milk - Horizon Organic Fat Free, and still 23 days from expiration. You can definitely tell the difference. No side effects. Just unpleasant. Posted by: Shana on June 1, 2011 07:11 PM I was so glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks most milk tastes awful now. The milk in plastic containers tastes like plastic. My one store that had paper cartons went to plastic jugs maybe a year ago. Now their milk tastes like plastic. I have found that Aldi's and Costco milk don't taste too bad. I make sure to buy regular pasturized milk - NOT ultra pasturized - that stuff tastes AWFUL - kind of sour or something. Also, I try to buy milk that claims that they don't use the growth hormones. We have a couple of farms not too far away from us that sell milk in glass containers. One of them even delivers to your home. I won't buy it. You would think that their milk would be great - but it tastes like chemicals. I am wondering if they use chemicals to clean their equipment & pipes or whatever and it doesn't get flushed out properly. If so, who knows what is in that milk. Posted by: Anne on June 3, 2011 08:15 PM Just experienced this for the first time here in UT. I purchased an individual sized Market Pantry 2% milk from Target.... I think "ricey" describes the taste well. It wasn't good, bareable, but I didn't finish it because the thought of what might be in it worries me. Posted by: Michelle on June 9, 2011 02:32 PM We've been struck with it in MD. It's been skim and 1%, in plastic containers. It's been different stores and brands. (Rutters, Walmart Great Value, and Nells Shurfine grocery store). I have no idea why this "taste" comes and goes, but we hate it. Maybe if enough of us start returning our milk gallons, maybe the stores can step up and get some answers. Posted by: Ellen on June 14, 2011 07:30 PM I have noticed this for years and thought it was just me. I gradually had to keep eliminating brands until it came down to only Deans that didn't taste bad. About 6-8 months ago that changed too. The frequency of bad Deans kept increasing and I wrote to them about it. They said it was oxidation. BS. I started drinking Piggly Wiggly milk and have had no problems until today. We are big milk drinkers so we usually buy 2-3 gallons at a time. My husband bought 2 gallons of milk yesterday from Pig. (6-17). The first gallon was great. The second gallon we just opened is horrible. It doesn't taste ricey or soapy. I can't even describe it. Both gallons had identical markings "sell by 06-22-11 55-96A 18:09". By the way, the Deans milk sits right next to the Pig milk in the same cooler. Why was the Deans milk so foul for so long? Why did it take so long for the Pig milk to have problems and why at all? Posted by: Ruth on June 18, 2011 04:59 PM I've noticed this past month the milk has had a strange after taste and now it smells and tastes a little like spoiled milk. It started with the Kroger brand milk, than the Wal-mart brand milk, and now even Aldi's brand milk tastes weird. The milk with the least taste is Aldi's then Wal-mart but Kroger's brand is so bad that it even smells like it tastes and smelling it makes me gag. I live in the Dallas metro-plex area here in Texas. Posted by: Wendy on June 20, 2011 04:36 PM I too have noticed an odd aftertaste with milk. I describe it as tasting like a band-aid. I remember as a kid the taste of a band-aid if you chewed on it, which if you think about it would be some sort of plastic? It's disturbing whatever it is. Posted by: josie on June 23, 2011 11:53 PM Im here in sacramento ca and Im having the same problem. I drink skim milk, for years and never had a problem with taste. But lately it all taste bad. Its an after taste that I cant describe. Perhaps they need to put the bull on a better diet or something. Posted by: Lawrence on June 26, 2011 09:57 PM Could this (fish oil being added) have anything to do with it? Here in CT, I have noticed the bad taste more & more, but almost always only with Garelick Farms brand. My kids usually are more sensitive to it than my husband & I. I think it almost gets worse the longer the milk is kept, but it is NOT a sour taste & I am not talking old milk, just 3-4 days. I think of it as a bitter taste, but faint. I do remember milk tasting similarly when I was a kid (1970's/80's) and my mom would say that her grandfather would tell her that it was when the cows were eating rye! I don't know, but I am growing tired of it! Posted by: Beth K on June 29, 2011 10:14 PM I stumbled on this thread searching for information on Archer Farm/Target milk cuz there is only one store near me in Lake Geneva, WI that sells only tiny bottles and I was trying to find bigger bottles or if it's sold under other packaging. Struck out on that and I don't ever drink milk however I do buy half and half and heavy cream in wax paper containers for coffee and ice cream and they never taste bad and I've used them even open and a month past the expiration date and never an odor or a taste. I wonder if it could be some lubricant or cleaning solution used on the machines that make the plastic bottles? Weird thread for sure. I know my mom stopped drinking and buying milk too about a year ago now I wonder if it was a few bad batches that put her off. Posted by: Lauren Michaels on July 4, 2011 07:38 PM i usually buy the mountain dairy brand milk here in las vegas from smiths grocery and have never had a problem in any percentage. today however i bought a carton quart of anderson dairy vitamin d whole milk and it has that taste that so many of you are describing. im going to drink it and i'll let you know if it kills me. im just going to stick to my usual next time though. Posted by: Cody Leslie on July 8, 2011 06:25 PM I have noticed this for many years now. The chemical taste in milk. I've almost always purchased milk in gallon-size containers. I'll try switching to paper carton half gallon size and see what happens. I am pretty sure the taste is caused by something that they use in the milk industry to clean their equipment. I work in the flour milling industry and can tell you how all the flour gets intermixed and avoiding chemicals like potassium bromide is next to impossible. As far as the milk goes, it tastes soapy. I'm going to buy different brands and only in cartons from now on. Will let those in Denver know if anything I find helps. Posted by: Jason on July 13, 2011 07:26 AM I can't believe that I found this online because I drink hot tea every day and about 8 months ago I began tasting a gross after taste and I thought it was just the Walmart brand. It's not. My family thinks I'm making it up. I went to N.C. last weekend and the hot tea was great so what is up? Posted by: Susan Davis on August 6, 2011 03:38 PM OMG! I bought a gallon of 1% low fat Horizon organic milk from Kroger and sure enough it had a disgusting chemical grassy toxic taste. It was not spoiled and very fresh milk that the milk delivery man just put on the shelf from the supply truck. I googled reviews hoping to find why it had this weird taste and found this site. Its a horrible taste and I am glad I am not alone. Sad that we all have experienced this but at least I know its not all in my mind. Something is very wrong with this brand. I have milked cows before and I know the taste of natural milk. Something is NOT so organic about this milk I tasted. Posted by: Weird Milk Taste on August 6, 2011 07:36 PM I live in Bergen County, NJ across the river from New York City and have noticed this taste for a couple of years now. No one else seems to notice besides real milk lovers. Tuscan & Farmland are the major brands up here and boy do they suck! Target's Market Pantry Brand and Trader Joe's are still delicious. It's strange that the store brands are producing a better product than the popular brands. Trader Joe's milk is the absolute best however, tastes like milk should taste without a hint of that chemical-plastic-watered down flavor. Target is good too, but does lean very, very slightly towards this flavor - not enough to notice unless comparing the two which I've done. Wal-Mart as of last year was tasting good as well - who knows now? Anyway, I called Tuscan on this and of course they are clueless as to the flavor I'm reporting and they claim no one else has called with this issue. Bullshit! That was about a year and a half ago and their cow juice still tastes like its mixed with urine! Posted by: Jacob on August 7, 2011 04:57 PM Oh, and yes, I only buy gallons so it's definitely not the plastic jug. Tuscan and Farmland still taste like crap out of the carton. Posted by: Jacob on August 7, 2011 05:04 PM Just could be another government experimental Posted by: John A. Hartney on August 14, 2011 08:08 AM I was trying to research why my recently bought gallon of milk poured out with mucus-like strings. I've never seen milk like that before. I also have had about half of the milk I've bought for a couple years go bad or funky a few days after buying, way before the expiry. It has come from different places and has been different brands. I live in Phoenix, and figured it was because it got warm enough in transit that bacteria had it's way with it. It's amazing to see these responses and realize I'm not the only one. I don't have much worth writing for with the exception that I feel like there is strength in numbers (of comments). Posted by: Buck B on August 17, 2011 03:02 AM Yes! I have been noticing this taste for the last several years as well. We used to only but Horizon, but now we make a special trip to our natural food store to but Organic Valley. I especially like non-homoganized brands, but they are a little harder to find. Posted by: Heather on August 21, 2011 05:47 PM I have noticed Maola milk tastes horrible and my son cannot stand to drink it. Now My Essentials brand milk from Food Lion is starting to have the same taste. I don't know what it is, but I will go to a different store if all they have is Maola. I can't drink it. Posted by: Tarra on August 27, 2011 08:37 PM I am so glad I found this, I live in houston tx and about five years ago I noticed milk was just nasty no matter how new it was and the date never mattered! Im a milk lover, I drink it everyday! I will know in the 1st drink if its bad and i have wasted gallons of milk pouring it down the sink! Its like winning the lotto when I get good gallon! I will try to make it chocolate milk when its got that weird taste but u can't do anything to get rid of it! I can't believe we don't know why this is happening! Posted by: cory on September 2, 2011 03:02 PM I have always loved milk. Lately I cannot find milk that I can drink. The last three gallons have all been poured down the drain. They were all purchased from different stores in Fresno, Ca. One from Walmart, one from Savemart and one from Trader Joes. I have given up on drinking milk until someone comes up with a solution to the problem. I will also advise family and friends of my findings in this article. I don't think anyone should be drinking rocket fule. Posted by: Dee Anderson on September 15, 2011 09:41 PM It doesn't seem to matter the brand or the store, it's happening everywhere. I am appalled by how wide spread this seems to be. I emailed the Dairy Farmers of America, hopefully they take this seriously! Posted by: Kelly on September 20, 2011 09:24 AM I grew up in South Seattle and I used to notice this in cartons back in the 80s. It seemed like every other one was bad. When I moved to a different part of town the milk was almost always okay. I used to joke about them sending bad milk to the poorer part of town. I did kind of wonder if there was something to that. Recently I started buying cheaper milk since I am unemployed. The first one was good but everyone since has been bad. Some after opening and being in the fridge would get better. I had bought organic and it was almost always okay. I was also buying Darigold in cartons and it was okay probably 95% of the time. I think I will go back to doing that. Posted by: George on September 24, 2011 02:11 PM The dairy mark on the bad milk, Fred Meyer and Mountain Dairy brands, was 4145 on both. Bought Darigold and it was really good. The dairy mark was 4134. Posted by: George on September 25, 2011 02:14 PM I've been going crazy for awhile trying to figure out why our milk (not yet expired) has such a weird, unpleasent taste. To me it seems to taste like they pour the milk into DUSTY containers. I dont really know how to explain it! I used to love to sit down and drink a nice refreshing glass of milk, but now there's really nothing nice and refreshing about it! I've tried Jewel, Walgreens, Sams Club, Target....its a hit sometimes but mostly a miss! ;( Posted by: Lori on September 27, 2011 08:52 PM The milk taste is bad because of the antibiotics and growth hormones they give the cows. now the question is how safe is it for you and your family? not only that they will tell you nothings wrong with it and give them meds increases there profit by 10% who cares about the people drinking milk its all bout big profit...WAKE UP Posted by: on October 4, 2011 01:03 PM My son first noticed the weird taste in a gallon of PET 2 percent. It just happened again. Taking it back to HT tomorrow-it's gross. A stong flavor that you can smell a little bit and a bad aftertaste. It is not sour. We are in Winston-Salem. Posted by: Judy on October 9, 2011 07:36 PM I jsut drank some milk today and it tasted so bad i nearly threw up. Bought it at Holiday and its so nasy im going to get rid of it. Posted by: Rich on October 14, 2011 07:28 PM about two weeks ago i bought some whole milk from Rite aid and it had a rank aftertaste. i figured it was because i wasn't used to whole milk but then i bought some 2% from giant eagle and it has the same taste but it is less pronounced. this leads me to believe that it is related to fat content and is perhaps the result of something fat soluble in the milk. I know for a fact that the taste of milk has changed as i drink almost a gallon of milk a day and the change came as a disgusting shock. Posted by: jed on October 16, 2011 08:46 AM Berkley Farms milk ALWAYS goes bad more than a week before it should. This is because they LIE about thier dates when shipping and printing their milk. Do a test, buy a small Berkely farms milk, I bet it won't last more than 2 days before it turns to cheese. Case in point, its the worst milk ever and a wasted purchase. Nothing like going to pour milk into a bowl of cereal in the morning and giant chunks of cheese come barreling out and you're saying to yourself WTF, I just got this milk yesterday. You look at the date and its got 1 1/2 weeks posted on it. Posted by: bob johanseen on October 18, 2011 10:55 AM I just gave our 14-month-old twin toddlers Full Circle organic whole milk, expiration date November 24, 2011. Now we go through 3-4 gallons a week so milk doesn't last long in our house. Well, our son vomited 5 times in a couple hours. I noticed that it smelled cheesy and looked a bit like curds so I started to get suspicious of the milk. I don't have a strong sense of smell, but I put that right up to my nose and hooo boy! it was definitely spoiled. Interesting that only one twin was affected. I called the nurse, and she said to keep him on a bland diet with a little liquids at a time and if he keeps vomiting then we should bring him in to check for dehydration. I don't think I'll be buying Full Circle milk again. I have 2 more gallons in the fridge. I opened another one today and it smelled off but not as bad as the one that made our son vomit. I'm going to do the test to see if that one is actually spoiled. I want to give our kids organic milk, but I don't particularly want them throwing up either. That can't be good. Posted by: Lenore on October 19, 2011 06:15 PM I always notice a strong band-aid after taste with organic milk and sometimes organic yogurt. The products are never even near their expiration date. I drink soy milk now, but bought some Organic Valley to make pudding. It still tasted like band-aids - even when heated. Creepy. Posted by: Melissa on October 23, 2011 08:54 PM I find a chemical smell and aftertaste in the Kirkland Signiture organic milk from Costco here in Maui, Hawaii. The horrible smell and taste is not consistant though because sometimes it smells and tastes just like milk should. I did purchase a case of 3 half gallons recently from Costco and all three half gallons were horrible smelling and tasting..not like they were rotton but like they have a chemical in them. I went back to Costco and bought another case of milk hoping that this case would be different but it was the same. My 6 year old daughter refuses to drink it and it has turned me off from wanting to eat cereal or even put it in my tea. Posted by: Jenny on October 24, 2011 01:28 PM Haven't noticed a "chemical" taste/smell, but a while back I did notice that my formerly reliable Kroger store brand whole milk tasted crummy. I looked on the carton and noticed that it contained whole milk AND skim milk. The PURITY brand is supposed to be good, but it's too expensive for us. I've just this week tried the Aldi house brand in our area, and I almost drank a whole gallon in one sitting, it tasted so good -- like MILK!! I looked on the carton and saw it contained only whole milk, not cut with skim milk or anything else. But it sounds like the problem you guys are experiencing is more than just milk getting skimmed or cut down? What is it? Posted by: rebecca on October 25, 2011 11:31 PM Like many who have posted I too am relieved to know that it is not just me. I describe the taste as a bleachy taste. Some of these posts are freaking me out! We've been drinking Costco's Kirkland 1-2% ups 096619000043. I live in Northern CA. Posted by: Nygil on October 30, 2011 09:25 PM We switched to Organic skim milk a year ago. I have thrown out more milk than I ever care to admit. Tonight I opened up a half gallon of Horizon skim milk and the "rotten egg" smell blew me away. Today is Halloween and the expiration date is 12-21-11. Crazy!! My entire family thinks it's disgusting and we LOVE to eat cereal. I may have to switch to almond milk or something other than cow's milk. It's very concerning and very costly to keep tossing this milk. I hope one day we understand why this change has occurred. would love to continue drinking cow's milk, but the smell and taste has completely changed for the worse. Posted by: Kim on October 31, 2011 10:12 PM Last year is when I first noticed a big change. It started with Kroger brand, so I took it back and they suggested I try organic. I did, and there was quite a difference. However, since then, the organic milk tastes bad too every 2 or 3 purchases. I save my grocery receipts now. I feel silly returning milk a day or so after purchase, but something isn't right and I'm not going to dump $4 - $5 down the drain. What is going on with milk?!? Posted by: Mary on November 14, 2011 10:10 AM "Ultra-pasteurization: The Blanding of America As the small family dairies went broke and the large commercial dairies became bigger the amount of milk available locally dropped. Now instead of milk being shipped 100 or 200 miles it was shipped across country. Sometimes it didn't arrive in such good shape. Over time the microorganisms became resistant to pasteurization and human bodies less resistant to the microorganisms. So, the dairies began to process milk at higher temperatures, longer, and called this new process ultra-pasteurization. Ultra-pasteurization will keep milk from going bad for four weeks, sometimes more. This milk can actually be kept on the shelf because it really won't go bad. The grocers love it. It is great for their profits. The big dairies love it, they worry even less about food borne illness as a result of their poor sanitary practices and the poor health of their animals. Many consumers don't love it because it tastes...flat...watery...not really like milk. That is o.k. because over the past 30 years most of the American public has forgotten what real milk tastes like, just as they have forgotten what a real apple tastes like. Ultra-pasteurized milk cannot be turned into cheese. Whipping cream that is ultra-pasteurized does not whip as well, so sometimes they add stabilizers to it. Even the organic dairies, like Horizon, are ultra-pasteurizing their milk. It does have to be marked according to the FDA, and it is getting harder and harder to find milk and dairy products that are not ultrapasteurized."
Posted by: Kaitlin on November 20, 2011 09:34 PM I just ran across your post after a quick google search for "milk tastes funny". I live in the suburbs of Chicago and have been experiencing this horrible tasting milk for years. I thought it was just the way certain brands tasted and kept switching brands till I found one that didn't taste bad. I've had good luck with the inexpensive brand that our local Woodman's sold, but lately every 2nd or 3rd gallon we buy tastes so horrible I can't even drink it with chocolate syrup! Every morning this week my glass of chocolate milk has been getting smaller and smaller. I keep hoping that I can at least choke down at small amount of it, but this week it's been so bad that I just end up pouring it down the drain. Is there nothing we can do to stop this?!? I (used to) enjoy drinking milk, and now that my baby is being weened onto drinking cow's milk vs. breast milk I'm worried about his health. We've been buying Horizon Organic milk for him, but I am not happy with the fact that it's ultra pasteurized and shelf stable! Real milk needs to be refrigerated! This change in milk flavor is very creepy and we're seeing it happen right before our eyes. I know the food industry is famous for adding horrible stuff to our food, but the fact that the change in flavor is THIS obvious and no one is talking about it is terrifying! Do they think the public won't mind their milk tasting like garbage? I wonder if we all just stopped buying it, would they return to making real milk again? Posted by: Beth on November 30, 2011 10:28 AM I ran into the same problem for a couple years now in the Fort Myers area in Florida. First time was milk I bought at a Target store. The milk didn't have a sour smell but some kind of chemical smell, it tasted just like it smelled, NASTY ! Bought another gallon a week later and again it happened, this is before the date stamp on the bottle, that's what made it so weird. Now I'm having the same problem with milk from my local Sweet Bay store. Their milk use to last a whole week after the date stamp on the bottle, when it did go bad,it had that normal sour smell to it. Not anymore, they just changed the name on the bottle from Sweet Bay to My Essentials. Now it's getting that chemical smell I tasted a couple years ago, from the milk I got at the Target Store. I complained to the manager at Sweet Bay, and he kind of told me I was imagining it, because they didn't change the dairy or the quality of the milk. His answer doesn't satisfy me, because i'm not imagining anything.If I have to go to the Health Dept. or the News Station I WILL because I'm a milk lover and that SMELL IS DISGUSTING and NOT NORMAL. Posted by: John on December 2, 2011 04:33 PM I work in the dairy industry. Proper selection of disinfecting chemicals -- as well as using them as directed -- at the dairy farm will normally eliminate this problem. In some regions, several brands of milk will source their raw milk from the same dairy farms. When this is the case, only one or two farms can ruin the quality of the milk for several brands. This is not only the fault of the farms that are producing the tainted milk, but it's also the fault of the milk brands involved, because this is an easy thing to catch with proper quality controls. Posted by: Robert on December 4, 2011 11:39 PM I live up in Michigan and have noticed the sour after taste... I was hoping to find a brand here that didn't taste bad... We all need to return the bad milk instead of dumping it... We all know big dairy won't fix the problem until it hurts their bottom line... Posted by: Lou on December 8, 2011 11:29 AM West Virginia chiming in here (after randomly finding this). Wal-Mart and Kroger are the major grocers, and I've noticed a change in the milk since around 2006 or so. It's "soapy" or "plastic" flavored. I avoid Great Value milk because it's had a 100% track record of spoiling long before the sell-by date, when kept in a pretty cold fridge. It seems to be the worst in terms of flavor and texture. Even buttermilk has turned disgusting, and smells very off (I happen to like buttermilk). A smaller producer in Ohio is Snowville Creamery. They produce half gallon paper cartons (remember those?), and advertise pasteurization only (not homogenized). After having plenty of their milk, I can agree it is not homogenized. The 2% and whole milks have a cream layer on top. A half-gallon costs $3, and Ohio has no food tax (unlike WV where, yes, we are taxed on the food we eat). To shorten this, any time I'm in south-eastern Ohio, I try to get some Snowville milk and enjoy. Otherwise I'm stuck with the rancid water passed off as milk. Posted by: Me on December 10, 2011 11:30 PM None of you are imagining any of this. That putrid smelling, undrinkable milk is nearly everywhere. It seems reasonable the likely cause is either due to diet manipulation of the cows, or possibly something occurring in the production of some types of milk containers. For example, I have personally noticed for well over 10 years, this phenomenon only occurs in opaque plastic milk containers - not cardboard nor glass - which refutes the notion of the animals' dietary intake to some extent. Second, it does not occur consistently with all opaque plastic, but only some. I strongly suspect the foul odor, unpleasant taste and lingering disagreeable aftertaste is, in fact, caused by some chemical reaction between the container and the milk, or possibly some residual element of the manufacturing process leaving trace particulates on the inside of the container. A chemist acquaintance of mine also noted that milk taste is affected by the passage of light through the container. To what degree, if any, there is a correlation I do not know. I would very much like to smell the inside of one of the plastic milk containers BEFORE any milk is placed inside to verify or dismiss the theory that the milk taste is in fact being altered or contaminated by the container itself. Additionally, I would like to experiment with such a container by placing non-affected fresh milk inside it to see if it indeed changes over time and how quickly. It is interesting to observe this awful taste is consistent around the country - that is to say, it is, for all practical purposes, identical from place to place, imperceptibly different so far as pungency at least. One thing does seem certain - because it appears this issue is yet to be officially addressed, the public needs to demand conclusive scientific research into the potential harm this phenomenon may be causing. And even if it is satisfactorily proven to be harmless, the public can still force an industry-wide change by their concerted refusal to consume this appallingly unacceptable product. Posted by: Gary on December 11, 2011 12:06 AM I just got a gallon of milk from Target in Leesburg, VA and it had that same awful off taste as described above. My mother in law said it smelled like cheap plastic products. Posted by: Jessy on December 18, 2011 02:58 PM
Definitely have cut back on milk consumption due to this. Posted by: Tim on December 21, 2011 08:31 AM I bought 2 half gallons skim Shaws brand in RI recently. They are plastic containers. They both had a plastic type taste and smell to me. One of them was for my folks and they couldn't taste or smell this. I returned them a few days later and they exchanged them for two new ones. I detected the same in these two but not quite as intense. Posted by: Anthony on December 31, 2011 12:17 AM I'm going to start right off with what only a couple of other people have said--that returning bad milk and asking for a refund is the only thing that will change this milk problem. What a revelation to come upon this thread. I live in Orem, Utah. My Costco milk has been "just OK", but drinkable. The local supermarket chain Smith's house brand, and Winder Dairy, have good milk, and both of these are sold in plastic jugs. I can't drink ANY other brands on account of their "off" taste. Dairy products in general have decreased in quality. I cannot find good buttermilk at all any more (I love it and miss it greatly). All Darigold products are reliably good (I think they're a Pacific NW company), but since Alberton's sold out and closed, it's not available locally. Posted by: Elizabeth Hall on January 3, 2012 02:44 AM we just bought foremost here in Vancouver, the eggs, creamo, and milk all have a strong smell and chemical taste. I will return them today. first noticed in my morning coffe, which went down the drain and then my daughter would not eat her eggs. Don't blame her a bit, what a terrible taste. Tried to substitute cereal for the eggs and discovered the same problem with the milk. All 3 products were bought at the same store at the same time. I have occasionally tasted this in eggs, but never in milk or coffe cream. Not sure what they are doing to their dairy, but i am switching back to dairyland. Would really like to know if anyone finds out what the cause is. Posted by: achemicaltaste on January 4, 2012 01:51 PM Correction: meant to say - back to Avalon Dairy, it may be expensive, but they use glass containers, and i never question the quality or safety of their products. Posted by: achemicaltaste on January 4, 2012 02:14 PM Another Long Islander here. I've bought only Tuscan or Oaktree 1% half-gallons for years. The milk usually tastes fine, but it the past few years, once in a while... maybe one out of every ten or twelve containers... it will have the weird flavor that everyone here is talking about. I'd describe it as gamy, rather than chemical. My wife doesn't seem to mind it. Glad I found this site, so I know it isn't just me. I'll be writing to the dairy tonight, and I'm going to start taking note of the batch numbers on every container that tastes this way. Posted by: Bob on January 5, 2012 04:22 PM I've experienced the same problem in Chicago, in Connecticut, and in the Washington DC area. I describe it as a plastic, chemical sort of awful taste. I don't think it has to do with the plastic containers because I drank milk from plastic containers for years without experiencing this taste. I think it must have to do with how milk is processed, and it is probably happening because someone in the supply chains profits more when the milk tastes bad. For a long time I was able to but good tasting milk at Trader Joe's, but now their milk tastes bad too. Whole Foods milk is still ok for me. I have been returning milk to the store - the more people who do this, the more likely the problem will be addressed. Posted by: Lisa on January 6, 2012 10:58 AM UGH my mom, dad, and brother think I'm crazy and annoying for not drinking milk anymore. (This is Ohio milk)I stopped drinking the Dairymen milk for about two weeks and then my Mom got the Kirkland brand. It also started tasting weird. I used to drink milk at least 4 TIMES A DAY! now i never do :( its depressing Posted by: Carrie on January 7, 2012 01:16 PM I know exactly what taste you all are offended by. I took dairy sensory analysis in college and even competed in a sensory team where we trained to identify milk quality by taste. The horrible taste that is so prevalent in milk anymore is light oxidation. When milk is exposed to sunlight it develops a strong off flavor and aftertaste. The easiest way to learn to identify light oxidized milk is that it will produce a drying sensation in your mouth. As the oxidation becomes more pronounced the flavor becomes more apparent. Once you start becoming sensitive to light oxidized milk you will have a very hard time finding milk you can tolerate :( When milk is in clear plastic sitting in light 24/7 in your grocery store it will oxidize very fast. I used to buy carton milk (horizon organic) to avoid this oxidation, but they must have changed the way they handle milk as it is almost always oxidized now. I get lucky now sometimes and get palatable milk by going to the run down grocery store with dimly lit displays and grabbing milk from the back where it is exposed to less light. Still, it's a crapshoot whether I will be able to drink it. If you are not sensitive to oxidized milk just keep on drinking it. Ignorance is bliss. Posted by: Justin on January 7, 2012 07:15 PM We starting getting bad milk about 8 months ago. I thought it was just me, but my 8 year old daughter started complaining as well. Last night my 1 1/2 year old was crying in his bed and hadn't drank any of the milk in his cup. I took his whole milk and gave him some skim and he drank it and went to bed no problem. We used to go through at least 5 gallons a week. Now we are lucky to go through 3 mostly because we've switched to water because we can depend on the flavor. We used to buy only Sam's Club milk. Then we totally stopped because we were unable to drink it. I've had problems with every brand except Polka Dot which I buy at the convenience store for about $1 more per gallon. The price isn't the greatest, but its nice to pour a glass and not have to wonder if its going to taste awful. Posted by: Kelly on January 8, 2012 08:30 AM I bought a 2 litre carton of milk on Friday, Saturday morning, I gagged on my cereal from the taste of chemicals and I bought a 1 litre half and half cream by Foremost from a different store and the same problem (hindsight i saw it was Foremost and should have stayed away)...the carton just emits chemical fumes..the taste is horrible, bitter and like chemicals Posted by: on January 8, 2012 10:08 AM Interesting. My milk taste like plastic. thought it was me. I Google it and see the start of this thread mentioning Kroger milk. That is what I got. Plastic taste Kroger milk. Sucks. Posted by: Kevin on January 11, 2012 10:32 PM In Queens NY here and we buy only organic whole milk for the babies but lately every brand we buy ends up having a "cheesy" smell afte ra few days... and the girls wont drink it. My toddler actually says ewww it smells like cheese. Lookswise it looks alright but does in fact smell like cheese. its gross! but I hate to switch to regular milk..? what to do ? Posted by: AC on January 13, 2012 07:13 PM I started buying kirkland organic for my kids. I tried it myself with cereal. It tastes horrible. I cant even believe my kids drink it. I Thought it was the cereal at first so I just poured a glass and drank it. The worst taste ever. How do they even sell this stuff. Posted by: dino on January 17, 2012 09:18 PM I live in Brisbane Australia and we now have the same problem. At first it was just one or two brands but now its hard to find any drinkable milk. Posted by: David on January 19, 2012 05:55 PM I live in Kentucky and my grandaughter is compalining about the milk having a bad tsste. We buy 2% and skim and it's all starting to taste bad. Why is this and is anybody doing anything about it? Posted by: Linda on January 21, 2012 10:24 AM Bought Costco Kirland organic too. It's undrinkable. It almost smells spoiled or made with unclean equipment. We are going to get our money back. Posted by: Lisa on January 21, 2012 12:29 PM I've been noticing the weird taste the last few weeks get so strong that I can hardly drink the milk even with carnation instant breakfast in it. As far as cereal is concerned it has become awful with the milk. I live in Valparaiso, Indiana. Posted by: Patricia on January 23, 2012 11:20 AM I've been noticing the weird taste the last few weeks get so strong that I can hardly drink the milk even with carnation instant breakfast in it. As far as cereal is concerned it has become awful with the milk. I live in Valparaiso, Indiana. Posted by: Patricia on January 23, 2012 11:23 AM I've been noticing the weird taste the last few weeks get so strong that I can hardly drink the milk even with carnation instant breakfast in it. As far as cereal is concerned it has become awful with the milk. I live in Valparaiso, Indiana. Posted by: Patricia on January 23, 2012 11:27 AM I've been noticing the weird taste the last few weeks get so strong that I can hardly drink the milk even with carnation instant breakfast in it. As far as cereal is concerned it has become awful with the milk. I live in Valparaiso, Indiana. Posted by: Patricia on January 23, 2012 11:29 AM I've been noticing the weird taste the last few weeks get so strong that I can hardly drink the milk even with carnation instant breakfast in it. As far as cereal is concerned it has become awful with the milk. I live in Valparaiso, Indiana. Posted by: Patricia on January 23, 2012 11:30 AM Milk fat degrades into among other things, aldehydes (soap) http://books.google.com/books?id=WHbH1dTTxCYC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=milk+aldehydes&source=bl&ots=Z86zEby78v&sig=kL4hxQMWV-Ei43eHy6jIYrNY0YQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QrAhT4XkH4n4tgewz_HoDg&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=milk%20aldehydes&f=false Posted by: Melissa S. on January 26, 2012 02:01 PM Add your two cents...
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Interesting question. I switched to almond milk over a year ago myself. But as for your mystery, here's all I could find. I don't know if any of it is helpful.
Rocket fuel found in milk in California
Not clear if amount imperils children
A toxic chemical in rocket fuel has been detected in California's milk supply, although environmentalists and toxicologists disagree over whether the levels are high enough to pose a health threat to infants and young children.
Tests by the California Department of Food and Agriculture found perchlorate, a rocket fuel component widely used by the defense industry, in 32 samples of milk taken from Alameda, San Joaquin and Sacramento counties, according to a report released today by an environmental watchdog group.
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"A major source of perchlorate for California is the Colorado River," Walker said.
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