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"Enjoy your own sex life (so long as it damages nobody else) and leave others to enjoy theirs in private whatever their inclinations, which are none of your business." - Richard Dawkins What does this even mean? Consider the word "damages." What does that mean? A older married married man decides to cheat on his wife. He talks a rather gullible teenage girl into having sex with him. He uses a condom, which breaks. She conceives. Now what? Does she have an abortion? Even if you're pro-choice, you must agree that having an abortion is more 'damaging' to a woman than not being pregnant and having one. The braver alternative isn't terribly wonderful either: I think most people would agree that the average teenager is probably not better off as the single mother of the child a 50-year-old cad (who has no plans to leave his wife) compared to the alternative scenario where the two didn't have sex. So did this man "damage" the girl? I don't see how we could say otherwise. And what is Richard Dawkins' remedy? Oh right: he wasn't supposed to have "enjoyed" that particular coupling. I guess if he'd gone about it with a more dour attitude, in Dawkins' world, all would have been well! Seriously, what variety of sexual scenarios aren't "damaging"? A healthy marriage certainly benefits from sex. But what about sleeping around? Does "use protection" really guarantee a lack of "damage"? (Hint: No, obviously.) Yet I doubt Dawkins would think of himself as telling them (though he actually has): "Hey, stop enjoying that!" Considering this is an issue where he's apparently telling everyone else how to live and think (a lovely bit of irony there, no?), he doesn't seem to have put much thought into the matter. And where does law fit in here? No laws about sex? All is legal? His failure to offer a clear statement doesn't make the question disappear. Should parents have sex with their children? Or does the "damage" factor allow the state to step in? If "damage" allows legislation there, what about in other cases? A man callously cheats on his wife right in front of her — is she "damaged"? Does that "damage" open the door to legal protection for her? Why or why not? Where do you draw that line, Richard? All problems become "easy" when you utterly abdicate responsibility for solving them, or even caring about the outcome. This guy is a scientist? Seriously: can you imagine if we applied the same sort of thinking to scientific problems? "Well, you know Richard, if you aren't in favor of creationism, then just don't advocate it!" "Dawkins' theory of the 'selfish gene' is completely wrong. How? Oh don't you worry your little head with all those pesky details — just take my word for it!" The larger irony here is that far more damage is done by idiotic social policy than by someone being wrong on some scientific question. Indeed, I have trouble seeing how we're harmed (to address one of Dawkins' pet peeves) if someone is confused about the age of the universe. But the social impacts of a massive increase in kids with a single parent? Ask those children how they feel about not having a dad, and then look at the statistics concerning outcomes for them, and the rest of society. No, not worth even a moment's furrowed brow for Richard. He has much bigger dragons to slay: somewhere, someone is thinking a wrong religious thought. even with your severe and obvious misunderstandings. Which are what, precisely, anon? Posted by: Ryan W. on August 12, 2011 11:55 PM Ah, welcome to the new world of non-debate, Ryan. You and I thrive on this kind of thing, but the next generation of Internet joiners doesn't -- it's all hit 'n' run, arguments a quarter inch deep. I used to listen to the Dennis Prager show sometimes... one day, he mentioned he had engaged in a debate on the Internet with some atheist -- and referred his listeners to the site. Prager had made his usual polite but evidence-based arguments, whereas his opponent had relied up the all-too-common resort to invective and bumper-sticker-type one-phrase responses -- almost entirely avoiding Dennis's arguments. Yet the commenters were almost universally congratulating his opponent on having really refuted Dennis -- as if having been shrill and insulting indicated he had won the debate. Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on August 19, 2011 05:33 AM Add your two cents...
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Dude way to get your panties in a bunch and go on an unimaginably pointless and meaninglessly incoherent rant which refutes none of the points Dawkins made either way, even with your severe and obvious misunderstandings.
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