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I think it's already annoying that my fiancee's car decides to lecture us with an irritating beeping sound whenever the passenger needs to unbuckle for more than a few seconds. If you like that, you'll be thrilled to know that 'progressive' inventors around the world are busy thinking of more ways to coerce you into behaving as they think you should.
We already have problems trying to encourage people to throw their junk into the trash, rather than littering. This kind of response from a trash can (one of several in a row — you'll have to figure out which to use for each type of material, no doubt) certainly won't help. You know what's really telling, here? The inventors ponder a world where trash bins would already be able to detect which "type" of recyclable material each bit is. And what's their first thought, in response to that possibility? That the trash can (or another machine, later) could automatically sort and route it to the proper compartment? Oh, no: their first thought is that the trash can could use that knowledge to heave the trash back onto the user or sidewalk, embarrassing (and possibly splattering) some well-meaning human being who didn't quite recycle 'correctly' enough.
They don't know what "sentient" means, do they?
Oh, only the grandmothers and homeless, eh? It sounds like their moral framework is: Dumping a employed person off a park bench? Good! Get to work you lazy person! Sitting is not for you! Go out and earn us some more tax dollars! Dumping a homeless person off a park bench? Oh no! What have we done! You poor person you! You need to sit and relax some more! And what's the value in exploring what happens when technology "goes wrong"? (Or is that just an ad hoc explanation for a poorly-thought-through idea?) If they really wanted to explore what happens when technology goes wrong the possibilities are endless: fire hydrants which pump kerosene, car washes which use sulfuric acid, active subway turnstyles which are sharped to dismember users. (Monty Python has a few suggestions, also.) But, again, what's the point of that? Any idiot can think of a billion devices which don't or won't work well. (A clock which shows random numbers! A television which shows nothing at all!) A challenge would be to think of improvements, not malfunctions.
Can the fish now also text back: "We're fine, but really annoyed by this plastic floating trash above us which keeps shining beams of lights into our eyes at night while we're trying to get some rest!"?
This also makes tons of sense: if a family uses "too much" energy (thus a bureaucrat in the background is implied, deciding how much energy each is allowed, 'according to their needs'), we should kill some plants to compensate — thus reducing the amount of carbon which will be captured! Can our new would-be masters think their way out of a paper bag too? Ah, thanks for the follow-up! I understand your point about perhaps his benches being a reaction or parody of existing ones. And I don't think causal users find unsleep-able surfaces bad at all — I find airport chairs comfortable, but could never sleep on one. But, um, I'm still a little mystified about the rest: There seems to be a sort of altruistic punishing involved in some government actions. The process of removing graffiti from New York's trains made them rather weathered looking, for instance. How is removing graffiti "altruistic punishing"? First, altruistic: Isn't it done on taxpayer dollars? So what is altruistic about the transit authority manager who pays a bit more to remove said graffiti? And "punishing"? How is that "punishing"? I suppose the 'artist' will be sad to see his scrawl removed, but the alternative — forcing commuters to ride a train covered inside and out with graffiti every day — would probably have a greater toll, no? Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on February 9, 2010 01:07 PM I find airport chairs comfortable, but could never sleep on one. Myself, I've slept on a couple while traveling. But that is a fair example. I suppose the 'artist' will be sad to see his scrawl removed I assumed that was part of the point? , but the alternative — forcing commuters to ride a train covered inside and out with graffiti every day — would probably have a greater toll, no? From an aesthetics standpoint, I don't personally know that a dingy, worn-looking train is prettier than one covered with graffiti. So I assumed that there was some other factor at work. Also, George L. Kelling, (author of the Broken Windows theory which you've mentioned before)was behind the program. That colored my opinion of its reason for existing. Of course, if people only believed the scoured trains were more aesthetically pleasing than those covered with graffiti that would totally refute what I was saying. (And there's probably some overlap between aesthetics and an ambient feeling of 'law and order.') First, altruistic: Isn't it done on taxpayer dollars? A poor choice of terms on my part. Posted by: Ryan W. on February 9, 2010 08:05 PM I assumed that was part of the point? I'd never thought of it that way. I believed they repainted trains because they the alternative sends an anarchic message. Graffiti also looks bad. That's why I'd repaint my garage door, if someone spray painted it. (And with the number of trains cars in a city, I doubt the tagger would know specifically which was cleaned.) I also probably wouldn't consider that a "punishment" at all, any more than forcing a thief to put a stolen object back on the shelf would be "punishment." A poor choice of terms on my part. I know the feeling. :-) Posted by: Tim (Random Observations) on February 9, 2010 08:19 PM Not that this is a matter of tremendous import, but to provide some citations for what I've been saying; In 1977, the Transit Authority built a graffiti removal station in its Coney Island train yard, in an attempt to discourage graffiti artists. Costing the city $400,000 annually, trains were sprayed with petroleum hydroxide, after which the graffiti was buffed off. However, the buffing process often failed to completely remove graffiti, leaving a dull stain which many saw as much uglier than the original artwork. Those in contact with the chemical experienced nausea and breathing difficulties, leading to the closing of a nearby public school. The chemical also corroded the trains Wiki page, Petroleum_Hydroxide
Only parts of the graffiti were removed as the rest exposed the steel to rust. The "coffins" trains were dirtier than ever.
It also wasn't just an esthetic thing. Yes, the untagged trains were grubby. But grubby vs. tagged trains (or neighborhoods) are like the difference between (a) living in a grubby building, and (b) living in a grubby building where the landlord has given up
The Clean Car Program started by pulling graffiti-covered trains out of service, cleaning the cars, and sending them back out on the road. Police were assigned to ride fulltime on the first clean trains, and clean trains went into special protection yards. But the program went further; it guaranteed that the first “broken window” would not lay untended and lead to the next. Once a train was entered into the program and cleaned, it would never again be used while graffiti was on it. If a train was tagged by a graffitist, either it would be cleaned within two hours, or it would be removed from service. As a result, graffitists would never see their tags on clean trains again. They might be able to paint their tags over other graffiti on cars that were not yet entered into the program, but not on clean cars. Why did this effort succeed while all others failed? ... it succeeded because it attacked the basic motives of graffitists. They want their work seen. Frustrate that motive by never letting tagged train cars on the road and graffiti will be defeated. Officials knew they were winning when graffitists who managed to penetrate yards tagged graffiti-covered cars rather than clean ones. Graffitists were learning the rules, rules which I believe had some moral force over and above the “Incentive” effect of never letting the graffitists show their work. A clean train is a clear sign that the rules forbid graffiti and the rules are being enforced. A graffiti-covered train signals that the rules against graffiti are not very serious, that the “custom of the country” allows for tagging trains.
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And what's the value in exploring what happens when technology "goes wrong"? (Or is that just an ad hoc explanation for a poorly-thought-through idea?)
JooYoun Paek seems to be protesting trends that he believes are possible or established. I think the matter regarding the bench that dumps people off was a response to existing park benches which were designed to be difficult to sleep on. I (honestly) wonder if benches that are difficult to sleep on are more or less functional for the casual user. There seems to be a sort of altruistic punishing involved in some government actions. The process of removing graffiti from New York's trains made them rather weathered looking, for instance.
Posted by: Ryan W. on February 8, 2010 12:39 PM